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Can the President Block You on Twitter? [POLICYbrief]With President Trump, there's a tweet for every

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Updated on Jan 16,2023

Can the President Block You on Twitter? [POLICYbrief]

With President Trump, there's a tweet for everything.,For the last seven or eight years, he has been tweeting on every conceivable issue that,confronts us.,This was not much of an issue before he was a politician.,As a private citizen, he could say whatever he wants on Twitter and he can block whomever,he wants, and it really creates no problems.,However, if official capacity Trump, the president of the United States on a government account,,blocks people, that does implicate the First Amendment and that's the basis of the lawsuit,being litigated now in New York.,The seven plaintiffs in the litigation claim that they were blocked by President Trump,on Twitter.,These are everyday people.,They're lawyers, activists, thinkers, writers.,They come from different walks of life and they all share one thing in common: They said,something that President Trump didn't like and President Trump retaliated by blocking,them on Twitter.,These people filed a lawsuit in federal court in Manhattan and they argued that the president,was violating their First Amendment rights by blocking them on Twitter.,Our First Amendment case law teaches the government can't pick winners and losers.,They can't say, "A-ha!,Speech we agree with, we'll let you in.,But speech we disagree with, you guys have to be quiet.",We have to let everyone speak and only the best ideas will prevail.,That's the basis of how our free speech system operates.,A public forum is a place where the government allows people to generally speak.,The classic example is a sidewalk.,If I want to walk down a sidewalk and I want to hand out pamphlets complaining about some,government policy, or I want to walk down the sidewalk and hold up a sign saying stop,this or stop that, I don't need a permit.,I don't need to ask the government's permission, and the government can't tell me not to do it.,So, sidewalk's easy.,The big question that's considered here is, what kind of forum is Twitter?,The federal district court in Manhattan ruled against President Trump and the court of New,York held that this was something of a public forum.,The court reasoned that President Trump used his Twitter account as a conduit of government,information, used it to announce government business, his staffer had access to it.,It wasn't just a private account, it was an official account, and once you have this sort,of public forum, the president can't exclude people on the basis of their viewpoint.,I think the best arguments in favor of the plaintiff is that they were blocked from this,public forum, uh, because of their viewpoints, and that constitutes viewpoint discrimination.,Trump's best argument is that district courts can't tell the president how to do their job,,that it's up to the president to decide how best to manage his administration, and that,district courts should not be micromanaging these things about how he manages his Twitter account.,I think the ruling has fairly widespread implications.,All government actors -not just politicians- but mayors, sheriffs, universities, public,state universities, uh, will now have to keep their social media policies open.,This is the first time a president has been sued for his use of social media in any capacity,whatsoever.,This is fairly novel ground we're breaking.

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CAN'T BLOCK: President Trump Told He CAN'T Block Critics on Twitter

CAN'T BLOCK: President Trump Told He CAN'T Block Critics on Twitter

you're taking a look at well president,Trump's Twitter feed every time he,tweets it sometimes makes the news in a,big way and right now the federal,appeals court has a decision on well,they have their own words on what the,president has to say and what he can't,do sometimes when it comes to blocking,got attorney mark Lambert here thank you,so much for coming on thanks for having,me all right so what did the federal,appeals court say so in a nutshell what,the court said is President Trump,because he's using his Twitter account,publicly can't ban critics so someone,has a different point of view than the,president,he can't block them from his Twitter,handle because that violates the First,Amendment right and so how does this,will this go across the board now for,for others in Congress or is it just,like on a one-person basis right now for,the president so the court was really,careful to say this applies to the,president's Twitter account what they,did is they analyzed his account there,were arguments made by the president's,legal team that he was using his account,as a private citizen and the court,rejected that and said no in this case,with respect to the president he's,clearly using his Twitter account as a,public forum where there is an exchange,of ideas people are responding by,Twitter and that's generating thousands,if not hundreds of thousands of,responses he has over 60 million Twitter,followers so this is a public forum,according to the court and so it applies,to the president in this case with,respect to other public officials I,think it's gonna come down to how are,they using social media are they using,it publicly are they using it privately,is it just a private Facebook account,that has nothing to do with their,political office and I think that will,affect what the outcome is and the court,said as much now walk want this get if,they're going to do it on a,person-by-person basis can't this get,taxing as far as a lot of a lot of work,as far as going basis by basis so just,by saying it's on a case by case basis,doesn't mean you have to go through,every case so the court is setting down,some general principles so one of the,general principles that the Second,Circuit Court of Appeals set forth is,that the,an account is being used as a public,forum then it is subject to the First,Amendment so I would say that according,to the second Second Circuit Court of,Appeals at least that if you have,another public official who was using,their social media for entirely public,purposes then it is going to be subject,to the First Amendment free of free,speech protections okay and then for the,president he also has that official,POTUS account but that never really gets,the big news because he uses that real,Donald Trump as the one to really make,is a big basis and big claims so if he,was just going to do like hey I'm having,a great day,then if he didn't put no policy out,there that would have been fine then he,could start blocking people or so I,think if he has a private Facebook,account that he shares with just friends,and family members and and it really is,I went on vacation these are how my this,how my grandchildren are doing something,of that nature that purely was private I,think then you can blog people but but,again we'd have to see what the court,says the court went made very clear that,with a public official with respect to,public officials and their private,accounts we're not ruling on that so to,me I would think the more we get into,the world of private use I think then,the First Amendment protections are less,strong that's my opinion but we'd have,to see what the courts do and for the,courts now though also looking at AOC,the Democrat that's getting always a lot,of publicity as well right so it,shouldn't be this is not a Democrat,Republican issue this is not the,president but it doesn't apply to a,senator or to our mayor I think this is,about public officials and using social,media for public purposes to have an,exchange of ideas to have a public forum,and then I think what the court is,saying is it applies to you if you're,that person so it's not specific to the,president it's not specific to the,office it's not specific to the party,mm-hmm sure now what about this one if,there is somebody that is tweeting them,harassing them can he just block that,person and say you know I don't want to,see that or do you just put them on mute,so I think there are differences and so,we're talking right now in this case,about people who are,critical of the president from a policy,standard so in that area clearly that's,subject to the First Amendment if you,have someone who is is expressing,violent conduct or foul conduct on a,social media account then I question is,that really free speech is that subject,to the First Amendment protections I,think that's a different situation than,we're dealing with here,there was never an argument at least to,my understanding advanced in the case,involving the president that the people,a

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Donald Trump: Facebook and Twitter restrict the president’s accounts - BBC Newsnight

Donald Trump: Facebook and Twitter restrict the president’s accounts - BBC Newsnight

he can't hold his rallies anymore,and his convention plans are in tatters,even the once reliable fox news is now,often critical,and he had to abandon his daily white,house coveted press conferences,when his sometimes bizarre remarks saw,his approval ratings plummet,supposing we hit the body with a,tremendous,uh whether it's ultraviolet or just very,powerful light,which left this social media as the,president's last remaining means of,getting his message,unmediated into american homes,if the twitter president can't tweet,what he wants,if his campaign can't post freely on,facebook well,it could put a huge dent in his chances,last night both twitter and facebook,took action against a posting from the,trump campaign,that contained this excerpt from a trump,interview,if you look at children children are,almost and i would almost say,definitely but almost immune from this,disease,and now one of the more well-known,washington national,fans this,directly contradicts official medical,advice from america's top immunologist,do children get infected yes they do,have hundreds of thousands of children,been,infected,twitter put a hold on the trump,campaign's account saying they could not,tweet again,until they removed the video the man who,introduced donald trump to twitter 11,years ago,is not surprised that the campaign very,quickly complied,they're not going to want to lose that,communication which has been very,effective for them obviously,uh so i think they'll figure it out,they'll figure out a way to,comply and work around it it's just to,become too powerful of a tool,for him personally and for his campaign,and and,a way for him to really communicate,directly to his face,this is the first time facebook has,taken such action against the president,in a statement they said this video,includes false claims that a group of,people,is immune from covid19 which is a,violation of our policies,around harmful covid misinformation the,trump campaign has accused the social,media companies,of becoming political activists mark,zuckerberg the ceo of facebook has,talked about this,he doesn't want to be the arbiter of,truth he doesn't think you know social,media companies should be playing that,role but like it or not they,are playing that role they have this,enormous amount of power in terms of,what the rules of the road are what they,allow politicians to say what people get,to hear,and it puts them in a really difficult,place thank you very much we're here,today to defend free speech from one of,the gravest dangers,it is faced in american history frankly,the president has previously promised to,hit back at the social media companies,even signing,an executive order the truth is he lacks,the power to do much on his own,before the election,now i'm joined by jeff flake who was the,republican senator for arizona until,2019 and was one of the few vocal,critics,of the president within the republican,party good evening,thanks for having me on what do you make,of the decision by,facebook and twitter,well i'm frankly pretty sympathetic to,mark zuckerberg's uh,statement months ago that he didn't want,to be didn't want facebook to be the,arbiter of truth once you go down that,road it's it's really difficult to get,back,so i'm not exactly sure how they'll go,forward with this,but you know when there are issues of,public safety,as as with the coronavirus and,statements by the president,might induce people to do things that,simply aren't good,i can see why they feel they have to go,that direction but,it's going to be a tough policy to,maintain or to or to get right,frankly it just seems also quite odd,because the clip was from,a news outlet it was from fox news and,in a sense that's gone out on on,television already and if the challenge,was going to be made it should have been,made by one of the journalists there but,now it's being,effectively edited by facebook i mean,who is really keeping donald trump,held to account as far as you're,concerned well frankly,if the trump campaign believes that,facebook is,doing them harm by not promoting this,i think they're wrong frankly facebook,is probably doing,the trump campaign a favor by keeping,this off the air,it does excite his base but it moves,independence and moderates further away,from it,so i in terms of what it does,electorally,i'm not sure that it really hurts the,president that much,i just don't know how do you maintain,this once we have a new president,uh i mean how do you go on and become,the arbiter,of truth as a social media platform it's,just,too difficult to do at a time where you,talk about an election coming up and,also,public safety i wonder how embarrassed,are you that republicans including in,your own home state,are politicizing covid19 for instance,encouraging people to break,lockdown rules well it's not good for,the republican party,it's not good for the population uh,voters uh citizens,or anything but just in terms of what,it's doing to the party,it's killing us as republicans we ju

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Elon Musk Twitter Files That EXPOSED Joe Biden and His Son!

Elon Musk Twitter Files That EXPOSED Joe Biden and His Son!

Elon Musk JUST EXPOSED Joe Biden and his son?!

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PROOF Twitter Censored Anyone CIA & FBI Told Them To!

PROOF Twitter Censored Anyone CIA & FBI Told Them To!

hey everybody it's the Jimmy Dore show,I'm Aaron mate sitting in for Jimmy here,with Matt taibi independent journalist,who writes at table.substech.com and the,lead reporter on the Twitter files so,Matt let's go through this one uh you,write in the Twitter files uh thread you,write remember the 2017 internal,guidance in which Twitter decided to,remove any user identified by the US,intelligence Community as a state,sponsored entity committing cyber,operations by 2020 such identifications,came in bulk so talk to us about what's,Happening Here,so in 2017 and we may talk about that or,not but basically Twitter had a a huge,struggle dealing with the government,back then over the russiagate Scandal,and they eventually came to this,decision that I think was pretty,significant this internal guidance where,they said publicly we're going to say we,only remove content at our sole,discretion that's explicitly what they,say but internally the guidance is any,user identified by the U.S intelligence,committee as a foreign State actor,committing cyber operations will be,removed so there's they're essentially,saying that privately if the if the,intelligence Community fingers an,account and says we want to get rid of,that we're going to do it and that,basically committed them to this endless,cycle of moderation requests,all right so one of them is new a new,case of U.S intelligence officials,trying to censor reporting on anything,critical of the Biden family and their,dealings inside of Ukraine we know from,before this is the well-publicized case,where before the 2020 election the uh,social media giants like Twitter,censored reporting on the hunter Biden,laptop which contained information about,his business dealings on the fake,grounds that it could be Russian,disinformation right so you have a new,uh case here where you say the U.S,intelligence officials,um warn Twitter about publicity,surrounding a book by former Ukraine,prosecutor Victor shulkin who alleged,corruption by the U.S government,specifically by Joe Biden now shokin,as a reminder to people he was the,prosecutor who was investigating barisma,in Ukraine and who was barisma barisma,is the company that shortly after the,2014 U.S Baku which Joe Biden's,government was involved in in Ukraine,brisma hired Hunter Biden uh to their,board making something like eighty,thousand dollars a month and what,choking allege was that basically,barisma hired but uh Biden to help,shield barisma from his own offices,scrutiny and he wrote a book about it,and here is Twitter getting a warning,about that book about how it really,could be some sort of Russian,intelligence operation so let's read,from some of what Twitter was told this,is a U.S intelligence assessment that,was shared with Twitter we assessed with,high confidence that in the summer of,2020 members of a Russian influence,organization which is at least partially,directed by Russian intelligence we're,aware of a production plan associated,with an upcoming book authored by former,Ukrainian prosecutor General Victor,shoken so this is very this is tough to,follow aware so some influence,organization which they don't Define,which is partially connected to Russian,intelligence they're aware of a book,that's about to come out wow big,bombshell but apparently that's the,that's on in their eyes grounds for,censorship so let's go on with this,um we have information that indicates,that the book is intended to reveal,corruption allegedly perpetrated by the,U.S and Ukraine and that the intended,audience includes political institutions,in the U.S Europe and Ukraine versions,of the book could be released in Russian,Ukrainian and English this fall so wow a,book is going to come out and it might,reveal corruption by U.S figures namely,Joe Biden and his family in Ukraine,yeah and and,that's your guidance right so to be,perfectly fair about this like I I was,not able to determine which government,agency this came from I I could tell,that it came through the FBI,um but there were a lot of these,documents that are sort of marked oga or,weren't marked at all and simply came,through uh you know the belly button,through either through teleporter or,through signal to Twitter this was,actually retrieved from the laptop of,one of the senior Executives who left,um but,unquestionably there were so many,um of these reports where they would say,something extremely vague like we have,indications that this is connected to,the in to the you know the IRA the,internet research agency and then they,would send a list of accounts and you,were just supposed to to say well they,assessed it so we might it must be true,um and I guess in this case they didn't,even send a list but it was for their,information like if you if you want to,take action against any tweets that,might have to do with shokun's book,um you know we're sort of encouraging,you to do so which I I think is pretty,Insidious yes and and they do,acknowledge that they actually have no,evidence so this is t

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Elon Musk JUST EXPOSED Shocking Twitter Corruption!

Elon Musk JUST EXPOSED Shocking Twitter Corruption!

Elon Musk just exposed shocking Twitter,corruption,Hunter Biden's laptop Scandal has been,fueled by the release of confidential,emails sent by the employees of Twitter,this unfortunate event has raised,questions about the fairness of the 2020,presidential elections,with this people came to know that,Twitter has majorly interfered with the,content displayed on their platform and,they even tried to conceal Hunter,Biden's story,did Twitter indirectly interfere in the,2020 presidential elections why would,they block content on Hunter Biden's,laptop scandal,let's know more about it before that,subscribe and press the Bell icon for,more videos,Twitter blocked all the links leading to,the hunter Biden story and put it on a,list of hacked materials the company's,policy allows them to block links that,they've resumed to be under hacked,materials who leaked these emails,when Elon Musk bought major Twitter,shares and became its owner he decided,to retaliate against Joe Biden the,golden opportunity he got was to release,the Twitter files on how this social,media platform aided the presidential,candidate and gaining the support of the,public,this would question The credibility of,the 2020 presidential elections and,would put Joe Biden in an uncomfortable,situation Elon used to be on good terms,with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris but,their ignorant attitude resulted in a,rift in their relationship,Elon had a leaning towards the Democrats,but it soon ended with him walking out,of the party as he has suspected them to,be spewing hatred,Maya musk the mother of Elon Musk even,lashed out on Twitter at Joe Biden and,Kamala Harris for failing to recognize,the achievement of her son,the unsettled dispute LED Elon to,release the Twitter files to prominent,journalists,Matt Tybee an American writer and,journalist was the one who posted the,Twitter files on social media,the documents acted as evidence to prove,the bias in favoritism the Twitter,officials had towards the intimate,political party leaders especially Joe,Biden the hunter Biden scandal was,carefully covered up by them without,leaving any hints if it was not released,by Elon the world wouldn't even have,known about it,the release of Twitter files made Donald,Trump demand a coupe but unfortunately,didn't take place,why did Joe Biden try to suppress the,hunter Biden laptop Scandal stories with,the aid of Twitter what did Hunter Biden,do to jeopardize the 2020 presidential,elections the supporters of trump were,able to get access to Hunter Biden's,laptop as he abandoned his laptop in a,repair shop,Hunter Biden does not have a clean,record as he is addicted to drugs and he,has misused his father's Joe Biden's,name in several situations,team Trump was looking for evidence to,prove Joe Biden's involvement in,corruption through Hunter Biden this,abandoned laptop was their opportunity,to make sure that Joe Biden's seat as,president is put to an end,there were numerous messages and emails,relating to the business dealings of,Hunter Biden which took place in Ukraine,he had used his father's name there for,favors even though the hunter Biden,laptop Scandal was known to many the,Intelligence Officers did not take it as,corruption as they suspected the,involvement of a Russian Hack and leak,operation team,Jack Dorsey was the CEO of Twitter when,the hunter Biden laptop Scandal stories,began circulating rapidly on social,media he gave instructions to disable,and block all the accounts which posted,the hunter Biden scandal this was not,appreciated by the social media users,who had many criticizing him the very,next day Jack Dorsey apologized to all,those and instructions were called off,by the time the situation was under,control the initial discussion of Hunter,Biden's laptop Scandal was not discussed,as the Democrats expected,the Twitter files lack evidence to show,the involvement of political,personalities pressurizing the,leadership of Twitter representative,rokana was the only person who had a,conversation with Twitter regarding the,leaked laptop files or the rest of the,sitting Democrat politicians didn't make,any unofficial calls to Twitter to take,down Hunter laptops content there were,several photos nude videos and sex tapes,on Hunter Biden's laptop not only is his,reputation on the line but also Joe,Biden's surprisingly the staff from,Trump White House requested Twitter,officials to remove the private photos,of Hunter Biden the media did not take,up on the hunter Biden scandal maybe it,was to ensure Fair Play Between the,candidates even though the elections got,over Elon decided to go ahead in,publishing the Twitter files he even,tweeted the real reason behind the,suppression of Hunter Biden's story,would be released at a scheduled time,Elon was portrayed as being an angel of,social media by exposing the sins of,previous leadership,all those mishaps occurred due to the,carelessness of Hunter Biden it's unsure,whether he was on drugs when he gave his,laptop for a repair he has a hi

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How Twitter Evolved From Startup To President Trump’s Megaphone

How Twitter Evolved From Startup To President Trump’s Megaphone

I am going to make history here as the first president to live tweet.,From politics.,Another day, another tweet storm here for Donald Trump.,To entertainment. You guys here on Twitter right.,To activism, Twitter has become a staple of our modern society.,I don't think that there's ever been a tool before in the history of,mankind where you can just so easily share what you got to say with so,many people so quickly.,I just wanted to see everything that was happening, not just where people,were, but what what they were doing, you know?,And I wanted to be able to see the world in real time.,But it's sheer volume of content disseminated in more than 40 languages.,Twitter has become an online running theme for recording our global,history. But a social platform success has not come without questions,around the company's profitability and growth and controversy around its,role in deciding what content should and should not be broadcast to its,166 million daily active users.,In 2006, Twitter was born out of the ashes of another San Francisco startup,called Odeo. The company was trying to do like Internet radio, but it,wasn't really panning out and they were running out of money.,But in 2005, it became clear that Odeo couldn't compete with Apple's,iTunes. So that's when they turned to all the employees.,And they said that if you have an idea.,Now is the time to try it.,And at the time, one of the engineers, Jack Dorsey, he spoke up about his,idea to essentially let users send out a broad text message to folks,through this thing called Twitter.,Twitter's 140 character limit was originally inspired by the length limit,of SMS messages.,This would later be expanded to 280 characters.,By March 2006, Dorsey had created a working prototype of the platform and,sent his first tweet out into the world.,Where the company really started to gain a foothold with the mainstream was,in 2007 at the South by Southwest event in Austin.,During the event, Twitter tripled its traffic from 20000 to 60000 tweets,per day. That same year, Dorsey was officially voted in as Twitter's CEO,,a title which he didn't hold onto for very long.,He was very young, very green, and he wasn't particularly polished as CEO.,This led to his ouster in 2008.,Twitter co-founder Evan Williams took the reins of the company after,Dorsey's departure. In 2010, he was succeeded by Dick Costolo, formerly,Twitter's chief operating officer.,Three years later, Costolo took the company public.,The stock had an astounding first day of trading, which pushed Twitter's,market capitalization above 32 billion dollars.,At the time, its market cap was larger than 337 companies and the S&P 500.,By then, Twitter had grown to a company of more than 2000 employees and,more than 200 million active users.,But the good times didn't last forever.,Twitter shares plunging on Tuesday as the company's first quarter earnings,leaked early and showed the weakest revenue growth since its IPO.,Feeling the pressure, Costolo made the decision to step down as CEO in June,of 2015.,He was succeeded by a familiar face at the company.,It wasn't until 2015 that Dorsey was finally brought back in, and during,that period he really had to prove his worth.,He did a very Steve Jobs move and that he went and founded another company,Square in this case that really took off and showed that Dorsey wasn't a,one hit wonder. That same year, Twitter would take on a new role as the,megaphone for the soon to be leader of the free world.,I am officially running for president of the United States.,During his campaign, Donald Trump used Twitter as a public square to,promote ideas that appeal to his base as a weapon to attack his opponents.,And as a tool to lash out at the media.,Then suddenly, his tweets became the mouthpiece for a sitting president.,The office of president of the United States, the office of president of,the United States.,When Trump was running for president, Trump had lots of ways to kind of go,into attack mode and in exercise his audience, he could do press,interviews. He could do rallies as soon as he became president, a lot of,those avenues of communicating directly to the public were closed off to,Trump. And so in some ways, Twitter was the only thing left for him.,As president Trump's Twitter use has not changed much.,According to New York, The New York Times, President Trump has insulted 459,people, places and things on Twitter.,Trump has often been criticized for his comments on Twitter.,Like when he told four minority Democratic congresswomen to go back to the,crime infested places from where they came, as well as promoting,conspiracy theories like the one about MSNBC host Joe Scarborough having,something to do with the death of a former staffer.,If you could come up with an ideal medium of communication for Donald,Trump, it would be Twitter.,It's really encourages people if they want to get noticed.,They want to get attention to say something outrageous, abrasive, very,partisan. Something tha

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President Donald Trump Rips Into FBI On Twitter | Morning Joe | MSNBC

President Donald Trump Rips Into FBI On Twitter | Morning Joe | MSNBC

so thank you guys the president just,tweeted to quote the FBI is totally,unable to stop national security leakers,that have permeated our government for a,long time they can't even find the,leakers within the FBI itself classified,information is being given to media that,could have a devastating effect on the,u.s. find now and David singer I feel,like singing to the president one month,late welcome to Washington,yeah because every president finds out,that you get checked Barack Obama,certainly did by judicial review by a,free press the First Amendment and yes,even leaking from inside and outside,your own administration that's right and,he's had to face a couple of types of,these first of all but koozie executive,orders came out so horridly people had,not had a chance within his own,administration to see them and review,them and i think a lot of the leaks that,that we saw some that The Times,published many that the post and others,published were a way for the leakers to,notify other members of his own,administration right you need to read,this and think about its meaning and,that worked because some of those,executive orders got pulled back some,got amended certainly the the DHS,somebody from the DHS letting I think,was The Times know that they actually,had tried to correct Miller and Bannon,on the green card exemption that's right,and they were overruled overnight that,sort of thing certainly did send a,message back but this is Donald Trump,acts like this is the first time this,has been happening the White House under,Bush was horrified I'm you know Obama,obviously more aggressively went after,leakers than anybody but even under Bush,a lot of the bad news Bush received,early on with the Iraq war came from,inside his own CIA that's right and you,know there can be a destructive nature,to leaks there can also be an extremely,constructive nature to leaks because,frequently it's a way for people to make,sure that an issue gets aired and just,because it's a leak does not necessarily,mean that it's necessarily damaging and,I would argue that in the case of the,executive orders Mullen some of these,leaks actually helped the Trump,administration get it,back together earlier in this first,month he seems so focused on leaks from,the Intelligence Agency when we know,that there's a lot of leaks that come,from his own administration people that,have been in a room with them sometimes,we learned that phone calls were five,people we see the photo have been in the,room and yet we know details that only,one of those five people would know so,we see this on a repeated basis here,journalists getting calls from somebody,within the administration I said that,Priebus and Bannon and Kushner didn't,leak about each other,but there's a lot of leaking going on,about other things other people from,everybody in some details of phone calls,with heads of state yeah only a few,people wouldn't be privy facial,expressions during those phone calls,right no it's not just what we see in,the photo it's what's actually happening,inside the room David you've covered a,lot of these administrations you've seen,roll out some better than others how,unusual how strange how different is,this really from the Trump,administration from Barack Obama george,w bush going back you know willie i,think it could settle into something,more normal the first month has not been,normal usually what happens in,administration is they're fairly leak,free for the first couple of years,because the people who come in around,the president are convinced that that,president is the best thing ever that,came through the campaign and then,there's they they make their way out and,there's a rescue team that comes in to,go fix things and they immediately say,well we're gonna make this better you,can't believe what the what the last,last folks did this time this has all,happened in the first month or so and i,think in part it's the fact that you've,got a an administration here full of,people who have never been in government,before I just don't know these levers,just doesn't this remind you a good bit,obviously Donald Trump is everything is,super-sized,but doesn't remind you a lot of the,first few months of the Clinton,administration that just had one they,started with the gays in the military,and everybody that's a World War three I,think two of their justice picks were,immediately disqualified,they had travelgate early on they had,Stephanopoulos going to the FBI saying,write this press release something,we forget the first six months and that,was so chaotic I guess until Gorgon and,Panetta came in,that's right Gorgon came in and said it,reminded him of the set of home alone,and there's a little bit of home alone,ish going on now we come to some of the,agencies you know during the State,Department these days you know there's,the secretary sitting up there and he,doesn't have a deputy yet he doesn't,have any assistant deputies so the the,structure isn't there yet,now the structure 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