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How Elon Musk’s Twitter helped make far-right violence in Brazil possible | The Mehdi Hasan Show

as we've said on this show before there,are way too many similarities between,the violent right-wing riots in our,Capital back in January 2021 and in,Brazil's on Sunday but one of the most,important similarities is that neither,attack could have happened without,right-wing organizers rallying support,on social media and on Twitter,specifically as the Washington Post,reports researchers in Brazil said,Twitter in particular was a place to,watch because it is heavily used by a,circle of right-wing influencers allies,of the former president bolsonaro who,continue to promote election fraud,narratives Elon Musk did not own Twitter,when our Capital was attacked two years,ago but he does now as rioters,sympathetic to the election lies of the,former Brazilian president stormed,government buildings on Sunday musk,wrote this on Twitter I hope that the,people of Brazil are able to resolve,matters peacefully well I think we all,hope that good tweet Elon but just about,a month before the riot it was Elon Musk,on Twitter spreading talking points just,like the ones from the election deniers,replying he loves replying to a,right-wing personality musk wrote I've,seen a lot of concerning tweets about,the recent Brazil election if those,tweets are accurate it's possible that,Twitter Personnel gave preference to,left-wing candidates,there are many reasons Elon Musk reminds,me of Donald J Trump one reason is that,his tweets are not just tweets they,often turn into policy they have real,world impact remember that funny bot,that would superimpose Trump tweets on,White House letterheads when it comes to,Twitter and the Brazil Riot well we,can't just talk about what Elon Musk,said on the platform we need to talk,about what he did to the platform before,musk bought Twitter the site had entire,teams dedicated to what they called,content moderation among other things,staff would look out for posts that,spread misinformation or incited,violence Elon Musk gutted those teams,this is reporting from Politico since,Elon Musk took over Twitter in late,October the world's richest man has,slashed the internal teams in charge of,combating misinformation including,individuals in charge of the company's,oversight in Brazil according to two,people with knowledge of those layoffs,who spoke on the condition of anonymity,the event here in Washington on January,the 6th 2021 happened despite Twitter,having guard rails like content,moderation thanks to musk a lot of those,guard rails are gone in the US in Brazil,and around the world,but musk isn't just removing guard rails,he's also bringing back bringing back,the very election deniers who helped,pave the way for the violence last week,former Trump National Security adviser,Mike Flynn got his account reinstated in,time to tweet on the second anniversary,of the capital attack quote I want to,personally thank Elon Musk for all he's,doing to help protect our basic human,rights especially our freedom of speech,and then there is Ali Alexander who,organized a number of stop the steel,events after the 2020 election and later,described himself as a VIP at the rally,near the White House on January the 6th,2021 where Trump told supporters who he,knew were armed to march on the capital,and fight like hell,let me read a bit from Ali Alexander's,deposition before the January 6,committee this transcript came out just,a few days ago question which social,media platforms did you use to promote,the event on January the 6th answer,primarily Twitter question primarily,Twitter answer yes,Ali Alexander was banned from Twitter,after the capital Insurrection so he,didn't have that platform at his,disposal ahead of the attack in Brazil,but that didn't stop him from exporting,his stop the steel message to right,Wingers there on Donald Trump's social,media site though one Trump launched,after being banned from Twitter Ali,Alexander posted things like take it to,the streets Brothers of Brazil military,Stand By and as the riot unfolded he,posted do whatever is necessary love you,all,Ali Alexander lost his Twitter account,after helping incite an Insurrection in,Washington he got it back after cheering,on one in Brasilia,maybe the timing is just a coincidence,after all he said last month that he had,spoken to musk and apparently gotten,some assurance that his account was,coming back,I got a I gotta reintroduce myself to,the world I,gotta go I need to I'm going to get back,on Twitter soon,I'm making moves,yeah the guy who used primarily Twitter,to help undermine a free and fair,American election he talked to talk on,and now has his account back along with,Michael Flynn oh and yes Donald J Trump,meanwhile American and Brazilian,democracy remain under attack,joining me now Washington Post Tech,reporter Drew Harwell he's reported,extensively on musk's takeover of,Twitter and had his own Twitter account,taken down and then restored after Elon,Musk took over the site Drew thanks for,coming on the show even with content,moderation in 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Rachel Maddow's Twitter Tantrum Shows Just How Unhinged Leftists Are | @LevinTV
Details of Biden classified documents story deflate right-wing 'whataboutism'
Biden makes first public comments after discovery of classified docs
James Carville on GOP’s new power
Why Hate Speech Is Skyrocketing On Twitter
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there was a brief flurry of excitement,on the right this afternoon when CBS,News was first to report that the U.S,justice department had started,investigating the discovery of,classified documents found at a think,tank called the Penn Biden Center this,is effectively where President Biden had,his office in Washington after serving,as vice president in the Obama,Administration he vacated offices there,effectively when he declared his run for,president in 2020 but the Penn Biden,Center is sort of the Biden home in D.C,in terms of his work life out of office,well on November 2nd lawyers for,President Biden lawyers who work for him,in his personal capacity were reportedly,packing up some of the office space that,the vice president used at the Penn,Biden Center in so doing they found,classified documents there classified,documents that they say were in a locked,closet inside those offices mixed in,with some non-classified documents,this is of course a weird set of,circumstances but that's what they say,happened the White House has since,confirmed the basics of this account as,have other news organizations after CBS,News was was first to break the story,The reason this created a lot of,excitement on the right briefly tonight,is that it immediately created a,perceived what about ISM defense for,president Trump president Trump is under,Federal criminal investigation for,apparently deliberately hoarding,hundreds of classified documents at his,home in Florida including refusing to,hand them over after National Archives,told them he had to even after they,subpoenaed him to get those documents so,there was this sort of brief excitement,on the right tonight that they thought,they had a new defense right oh it's,supposedly so bad what Trump did at,Mar-A-Lago with all the nuclear,documents and stuff but look Joe Biden's,just as bad why aren't they serving,search warrants on President Biden the,way they did on former president Trump,as I said tonight A Brief flurry of,excitement on the right about this,Prospect when this news broke about the,Penn Biden Center the reason it was only,a brief flurry of excitement is because,in President Biden's case uh he and his,lawyers appear to have actually done the,right thing when it comes to these,classified documents Biden's lawyers say,they discovered these documents among,his vice presidential papers at his,office at the Penn Biden Center on,November 2nd,the White House council's office then,notified the National Archives that same,day,about what had been found the National,Archives apparently did not even know,these documents were missing and had not,been seeking their return the archetype,the archives took custody of that,material the following morning,and that appears to be it,attorney general Merritt Garland has,asked one of the last remaining,trump-appointed U.S attorneys to review,the discovery of these documents at the,Penn Biden Center,but it does not sound like it's an,adversarial process at all the White,House says it is cooperating fully with,the National Archives and with the,Department of Justice on the review and,again this was not as it was in Trump's,case the archives Desperately Seeking,the return of materials that Trump was,blowing off and and Trump was blowing,off those requests and then ultimately,blowing off The subpoena to return all,those documents these appear to have,been documents that were inadvertently,held at the Penn Biden Center discovered,by Biden's attorneys they notified White,House which notified immediately the,National Archives that these documents,were in the wrong place the archives,moved immediately to retrieve them that,appears to be the sum total of it at,least as far as we know but again the,White House says they are cooperating,fully with the archives and with the,justice department on reviewing the,situation,again we will bring you more on this if,we learn more about it tonight but the,brief Euphoria on the right that this,would somehow you know exonerate Trump,by what aboutism uh it's already turning,into a bit of a hangover because of the,stark contrast between the actions of,the current president and the former guy,when it comes to classified material,there's another provision in this deal,though that I think is kind of a sleeper,that I think is worth more notice than,it has received so far,and that's the provision as part of the,new rules package that the Republicans,are agreeing to which would create a,committee to investigate what they call,the weaponization of the federal,government this is a committee that's,expected to be chaired by Trump,Republican Jim Jordan and the,Republicans claim that this committee,would have the power to oversee not just,the justice department and the FBI the,way they're usually overseen by Congress,they claim this committee led by Jim,Jordan would have the ability to oversee,ongoing criminal investigations being,conducted by the justice department,ongoing criminal investigations like say,the ongoing crim

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Rachel Maddow's Twitter Tantrum Shows Just How Unhinged Leftists Are | @LevinTV

rachel maddow's at msnbc once a week to,me that's once a week too often,and uh she says pretty much that,elon musk is going to regret,uh the the purchase of uh,of twitter now she would know being an,entrepreneur and being a successful,businesswoman she's none of those things,she's an idiot she's a big mouth,it's very very hard you see to get,wealthy and get a position on liberal,platforms if you're a liberal,i say that tongue-in-cheek let's take a,listen go,and one of the things that we've seen,when other people have,not taken over big media companies but,started their own niche media companies,on this issue of free speech and not,doing content moderation and it being a,wide open wild west and that's the point,of it is that pretty quickly,he didn't say it's going to be a wide,open wild west there may be some,restrictions,i mean,if somebody gets on there and commits,acts of libel and so forth i suspect,they're going to want to take a look at,that,because they don't want to be exposed if,somebody's on there saying i'm going to,kill my wife in three minutes i don't,think that's going to be,allowed in certain other things if,somebody's just a racist or an,anti-semite or a,bigot or whatever,so uh,but this wide open wild west putting all,that aside there's a big box,a huge box so people want to debate,masks they want to debate vaccines,people want to debate politics they want,to debate climate change what's,happening with the big oligarchs is,climate change no,you're the believer or you're out,or we give you the scarlet letter,you don't agree with the mask,disinformation misinformation as obama,says you're going to get people killed,he would know but anyway so you're off,and these are scientists and medical,doctors and other people who want to,have that discussion,that shouldn't be banned or censured or,anything of the kind if somebody is a,kook it'll be figured out it'll be known,the problem we've had with,with big tech and these oligarchs is,propaganda,that goes in one direction that's the,problem,and the idea that you would,ban a former president from twitter,donald trump who says he's not going,back he's got a zone that he's created,and yet the ayatollah khamenei,or one of those thugs,genocidal maniacs is still able to,communicate on a twitter is absurd,and when you consider all the business,these big oligarchs do in communist,china it's amazing,i noticed that bezos attacked musk for,doing business in china i said wait a,minute,does amazon do business in china of,course they do,doesn't amazon buy stuff,isn't it the go-between,for china products,of course it is,so he quickly pulled the tweet because,he realized oops i made an asset of,myself,as he often does,go,we get lots of isis beheading videos and,you know child pornography and you know,child pornography,wait a minute,we just had a nominee to the supreme,court of the united states who just,confirmed,who went soft on,punishment,for child pornographers and those who,watch it,i don't remember rachel maddow speaking,out against her do you,she went under the average sentence way,under the sentencing guidelines,for these pervs,and everybody says why oh you must be a,racist don't you understand she's a,historic figure,she's our first african-american,birthing woman now if you don't like it,there's something wrong with you don't,be nasty this is what they say,this is what they say and by the way the,same people again a footnote,we have a gentleman by the name of evans,bishop evans,he was with the texas,national guard he was not a border guard,he didn't sign up for that but he goes,into the rio grande,saves two people turns out they are drug,smugglers and he drowns and dies,and this man served two tours,i believe it was in iraq he's a hero,nobody will attend his funeral from,washington,he's an african-american,nobody will talk about what a fantastic,man he is no no no because he,he is the background of a great patriot,a great hero,they'll never mention him and yet,biden's policies forced the national,guard in texas to get on that border and,this man to drown to death,i'm not trying to go off on tributaries,here this is important to me,but because he's not famous or he,doesn't have power or he won't be on the,court issuing left-wing,you know decisions rather than,adjudicating honestly,they don't care,they won't even mention his name biden,won't go down there harris won't go down,there for any memorial any actual,funeral no,go ahead,eating disorder dysmorphia photos and,other things that um in some cases are,are illegal,and in other cases,make the site make the use of the site,impossible,for normal humans with normal gag,reflexes,um,is that,a is that fair and b,how does a how does a kind of a stupid,question is this,freedom and free speech,have,what they have,uh we can't make a perfect situation if,we make a perfect situation we have,genocide we have,uh all-powerful government deciding what,is and isn't perfect,rachel maddow must not be aware of her,own network,where

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Details of Biden classified documents story deflate right-wing 'whataboutism'

there was a brief flurry of excitement,on the right this afternoon when CBS,News was first to report that the U.S,justice department had started,investigating the discovery of,classified documents found at a think,tank called the Penn Biden Center this,is effectively where President Biden had,his office in Washington after serving,as vice president in the Obama,Administration he vacated offices there,effectively when he declared his run for,president in 2020 but the Penn Biden,Center is sort of the Biden home in D.C,in terms of his work life out of office,well on November 2nd lawyers for,President Biden lawyers who work for him,in his personal capacity were reportedly,packing up some of the office space that,the vice president used at the Penn,Biden Center in so doing they found,classified documents there classified,documents that they say were in a locked,closet inside those offices mixed in,with some non-classified documents,this is of course a weird set of,circumstances but that's what they say,happened the White House has since,confirmed the basics of this account as,have other news organizations after CBS,News was was first to break the story,The reason this created a lot of,excitement on the right briefly tonight,is that it immediately created a,perceived what about ISM defense for,president Trump president Trump is under,Federal criminal investigation for,apparently deliberately hoarding,hundreds of classified documents at his,home in Florida including refusing to,hand them over after National Archives,told them he had to even after they,subpoenaed him to get those documents so,there was this sort of brief excitement,on the right tonight that they thought,they had a new defense right oh it's,supposedly so bad what Trump did at,Mar-A-Lago with all the nuclear,documents and stuff but look Joe Biden's,just as bad why aren't they serving,search warrants on President Biden the,way they did on former president Trump,as I said tonight A Brief flurry of,excitement on the right about this,Prospect when this news broke about the,Penn Biden Center the reason it was only,a brief flurry of excitement is because,in President Biden's case uh he and his,lawyers appear to have actually done the,right thing when it comes to these,classified documents Biden's lawyers say,they discovered these documents among,his vice presidential papers at his,office at the Penn Biden Center on,November 2nd,the White House council's office then,notified the National Archives that same,day,about what had been found the National,Archives apparently did not even know,these documents were missing and had not,been seeking their return the archetype,the archives took custody of that,material the following morning,and that appears to be it attorney,general Merrick Garland has asked one of,the last remaining trump-appointed U.S,attorneys to review the discovery of,these documents at the Penn Biden Center,but it does not sound like it's an,adversarial process at all the White,House says it is cooperating fully with,the National Archives and with the,Department of Justice on the review and,again this was not as it was in Trump's,case the archives Desperately Seeking,the return of materials that Trump was,blowing off and and Trump was blowing,off those requests and then ultimately,blowing off The subpoena to return all,those documents these appear to have,been documents that were inadvertently,held at the Penn Biden Center discovered,by Biden's attorneys they notified White,House which notified immediately the,National Archives that these documents,were in the wrong place the archives,moved immediately to retrieve them that,appears to be the sum total of it at,least as far as we know but again the,White House says they are cooperating,fully with the archives and with the,justice department on reviewing the,situation,again we will bring you more on this if,we learn more about it tonight but the,brief Euphoria on the right that this,would somehow you know exonerate Trump,by what aboutism uh it's already turning,into a bit of a hangover because of the,stark contrast between the actions of,the current president and the former guy,when it comes to classified material,foreign

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Biden makes first public comments after discovery of classified docs

President Biden is now talking about,those classified documents found in a,former private office he used after,leaving the Obama White House two,sources telling NBC News less than a,dozen documents with classified markings,were found and here's what the president,said earlier tonight about that very,subject during a summit in Mexico City,people know I take classified documents,of classifying information seriously,when my lawyers were clearing out my,office at the University of Pennsylvania,they set up an office for me so secure,office in the Capitol when I the four,years after being vice president I was a,professor at Penn,they found some documents in a box in a,locked cabinet or at least a closet and,as soon as they did they realized there,were several classified documents in,that box and they did what they should,have done they immediately called The,Archives immediately call The Archives,turned them over to the archives and I,was briefed about this discovery been,surprised to learn that there were any,government records that were taken there,to that office,but I don't know what's in the documents,I've my lawyers have not suggested I ask,what documents they were I've turned,over the boxes they've turned over the,boxes to the archives and we're,cooperating fully cooperating fully with,the review and which I hope will be,finished soon and uh will be more detail,at that time,cooperating fully he said it twice our,own Kristen Welker has more on why this,case is different than the documents,case and that situation that was found,at Mar-A-Lago,while the two cases share similarities,the White House notes key differences,including that the Biden documents were,not the subject of an archives request,and that once they were discovered they,were quickly turned over,in response the house oversight,committee now led by Kentucky Republican,James Comer told the White House today,it is investigating those documents and,House Republicans have made it clear,they plan to spend a lot of time,investigating the Biden Administration,on a lot of topics also today on a,party-line vote the house approved the,creation of the so-called select,subcommittee on the weaponization of the,federal government its main focus will,be to investigate federal law,enforcement the panel is expected to be,led by Ohio Republican Jim Jordan he of,course is a very loyal Trump Ally who is,also set to chair the Judiciary,Committee meanwhile Donald Trump's,longtime Chief Financial Officer started,serving time Behind Bars today Alan,weiselberg was sentenced to five months,for his role in a tax fraud scheme,involving the Trump organization where,he worked for decades tonight he is in,New York's notorious Rikers Island jail,just think about that Donald Trump's,longtime Chief Financial Officer who,worked in the Trump Organization for,decades is now serving time on Rikers,Island for a tax fraud scheme working,for Trump earlier today weisselberg's,lawyer told the media this after his,sentencing,he deeply regrets the lapse in judgment,that resulted in his conviction Mr,weisselberg also regrets to harm his,actions have caused to the Trump,organization and members of the Trump,family,he is grateful to them for their,continued support throughout this,difficult chapter of his life

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James Carville on GOP’s new power

have you made any decisions as to how,you're going to handle with George,Santos in his time no but I'll tell you,when we do have you considered maybe not,seating him on any committees is that an,option that's on the table right now you,know you're a good reporter you asked,the question many times but I'll do it,I'll let you all know when the time is,right have you talked to him at all have,you had a conversation with him I'll let,you guys all know,speaker Kevin McCarthy refusing to,comment on New York Republican George,Santos Santos is of course facing,multiple investigations related to lies,he told on the campaign Trail he's,apologized for misleading his voters but,many say it is not enough and while,Santos and his party have been dodging,reporter's questions Democrats have had,plenty to say about this subject here's,fellow New Yorker Dan Goldman just,earlier today,we haven't seen a single,movement on the part of Republican,leadership George Santos cast the,deciding vote for Kevin McCarthy so that,he could become speaker of the house so,they have wrapped their arms around him,George Santos needs to be held,accountable for his lies,Dan Goldman is one of two house,Democrats who have filed an Ethics,complaint against Santos so let's,discuss this and more with Democratic,strategist James Carville who helped,elect former President Bill Clinton in,the early 90s and he gets us smarter,every time he's here James had a,republican solve a problem called George,Santos what should they do and what will,they do,I'd like to see the guy's passport,I said how do we know that he's a,citizen I mean maybe he is and maybe he,has a passport but I haven't seen it uh,the second thing is I think he's just a,perfect instrument to expose the rock,that is the modern Republican party and,I think Congressman golden all of them,should just keep hammering away and of,course they can't do anything about it,because they have to have his vote and,just use him,you know as a political pinata and just,keep hitting it and hitting it and,hitting it and keep asking the,Republicans let's see your passport what,about this what about that I think he's,more valuable there than he is gone,I really do,that is truly sick it may be true but,it's sick here's something else we keep,hearing about from Republicans cuts to,Social Security and other entitlement,reform they've been talking about this,for a long long time but if they,actually move forward is it going to,backfire a whole lot of Voters on every,side of the aisle really want to keep,their social security,so Stephanie indels me here a second all,right I I read this on the Fox News,website one of the secret deals that,they made with Kevin McCarthy in by the,way to 18 Republicans that are from,Industries Biden care they don't know,what they voted on they have no idea of,what Kevin McCarthy and the freedom,caucus deal income Congressman buddy,Carter of Georgia is bringing to the,floor a bill that would not abolish the,IRS abolish the income tax wait not just,abolish the income tax would abolish the,estate tax,would abolish the the gift tax all right,but more importantly would abolish all,payroll taxes all right that's how,Social Security and Medicare fund that,is on Fox news's website that is coming,to the floor,all right,and they said that what they're going to,replace it what is a tax on consumption,that's a fancy word for attacks on,everything you buy,and to make up that Revenue you you'd,have to get a revenue estimated,Economist on your show I bet you use,somewhere in the high 30 percent uh tax,and that means a gallon of gas a bottle,of aspirin a,quart of milk a loaf of bread everything,is going to go up it should if this were,to happen now that is part of the deal,they're made,it this is how crazy this entire thing,is now and you say well James come on,the center never go along with that it,won't get enough votes you know it is a,statement of their intent it's a,statement of their values and it's a,statement of their priorities and these,18 Republicans that said they want to go,to Washington the problem solvers or,whatever that stupidity is,they they,voted for things that they had no idea,what Kevin McCarthy had given away to,the freedom caucus and the Democrats,after just pound this home okay James,then let's say they're doing it is that,not the greatest gift to Democrats,because changing the tax code in that,way doesn't add up for a mathematician,and more importantly for you it don't,add up for voters,not at all and you've got to keep,reminding people of it you remember,Kevin McCarthy said in the campaign in,October of 2022 that he was going to use,the debt limit to force cuts and Social,Security and Medicare all right the,voters didn't know that,because,they got people got distracted and you,got to bring it home they have to they,have to make people all the time go on,what they're voting on what deals that,they made that they have no idea no idea,what what McCarthy has done and and you,know Mc

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Why Hate Speech Is Skyrocketing On Twitter

you know this is all sort of connected,so one of the things that he did by,demonstrating that he was going to allow,a lot of these accounts back onto,Twitter and he was going to be way more,permissive in the types of things that,you can say specifically is going to,allow this type of hate speech and,extremism to exist and proliferate um it,has a few effects one new people join so,you know we monitor these groups on,telegram for example which had been sort,of a safe haven for a bunch of the,extremists that had previously been,kicked off of some of the more,mainstream accounts and in recent weeks,they've all been you know these,prominent telegram chats have been,telling their members to go back to,Twitter and sign up rejoin because it's,a good opportunity to recruit and sort,of evangelize so one the types of people,that are coming back are not just the,troop relievers but the hard extremists,so one guy really ran the daily Stormer,which is literally a Neo-Nazi,publication and sort of forum was kicked,off years ago and came back the same day,that that uh musk had you know suspended,yay's account so you know there's this,incredible moment where you know he has,these little things that he tries to,commercialize but the effect of it is,that all all of these extremists are,coming back on and why that matters is,that It ultimately then allows for the,recommendation engine on Twitter to help,connect otherwise extreme individuals,that were not previously connected or,people that haven't been radicalized yet,but can now get sort of connected to,these new people that are coming back so,you have the immediate harm of more hate,more extremism but you sort of have this,long tail where Twitter now becomes an,engine of radicalization that helps,allow for these groups to bring in new,people spread new identity new ideas and,that's how you then convert that kinetic,energy into offline action more harms,more violence more actually on the,ground extremism right and Brandy of,course the sort of unanswerable question,is how how you you move back from this,right I think part of the answer,potentially lies in Twitter's,advertising it's declined by 90 percent,I wonder if that is part of the calculus,or if it's just more complicated,yeah how to fix how to fix this how to,close Elon musk's box,um I I that is a question for someone,far beyond my pay grade I mean my job,really is to look at the harms you know,and how to fix it,I mean I I take your point because I,understand it as a as a really hard,question I think that's sort of this is,part part of why this is so anxiety,producing right Brandy because it's very,clear the harm that it is doing and I,think and Angela you feel free to jump,in but even if you fix it as sort of a,platform level there's already sort of a,hate that has seeped out that you can't,reel back in,he's not going to fix it he doesn't want,to fix it oh I'm so sorry,go I mean we should just notice that,then that Elon Musk is having a great,time he's having a wonderful time he is,loving this he's sort of this Chaos,Agent where,um it doesn't really matter if if this,succeeds for him because just the,attention that it's getting he views,that as a as a as a success you know and,I I just want to you know you mentioned,this that like Words matter right and,and that you know it leads to offline,violence it really really does and I,just want to underline that point you,know that these the stuff that we're,seeing online right now and these,communities that are building have real,world consequences you know there have,been fascists and racist posts that we,have connected specifically to shootings,and I've been on the show and we've,talked about it in the wake of these,shootings at the El Paso Walmart at,synagogues at mosques black people at a,grocery store and I just like how many,online manifestos do we have to read to,understand that this is how it works and,the fact that we know all of this right,now and it's still going on and and half,the people just seem to be all right,with that it blows my mind truly so,Angela I'm going to let you jump in and,have the final word,yeah the thing I would say is some,things you know I think there's two,objections to the big question of what,do we do about it one is some things you,can't fix but you can mitigate the harms,um so that's the first thing we have to,recognize that there is some mitigations,that can happen as you know there's an,Advertiser sort of push which I don't,think fixes would prevents it entirely,but what it does do is control the speed,dial for how fast things and how bad,things get how fast they could get so,that's one thing is sort of using that,as a way to slow down some of it and,then the second thing is what are the,types of takeaways here that can get,that can be prevented because this stuff,is going to spill over to other,platforms and what I'm really worried,about like just today Elon Musk is,bragging advertisers are coming back,when in fact they're 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i will remind you i know it's it's it,probably sounds weird to hear me talking,this much about things the president,tweeted but,i'll remind you this is the last day we,ever have to struggle with the,responsibility of how best to ignore his,tweets after today,it's over but i do actually think in,part because it's the last day,but specifically because of the the way,it ended,i think it's it's important actually i,think it's,definitely interesting potentially,important to look at the last thing that,happened before this all came to an,end these are the last two posts that he,made on twitter,before that company decided to take down,his whole account,get rid of all of his tweets and ban him,from the platform entirely,permanently so these are the last two,first one said this it said quote the 75,million,great american patriots who voted for me,america first and make america great,again,will have a giant voice long into the,future they will not be disrespected or,treated unfairly in any way shape or,form,he tweeted that and then right after,that he tweeted this to all of those who,have asked i will not be going to the,inauguration on january 20th,now i think this is interesting look at,how the company twitter,uh explains tonight why those two,last tweets were enough to finally,trigger a,lifetime ban on this platform for,president trump this is actually,fascinating to me here's what they say,after close review of recent tweets from,the at,real donald trump account and the,context around them specifically how,they're being received and interpreted,on and off twitter,we have permanently suspended the,account due to the risk of further,incitement of violence,these two tweets must be read in the,context of broader events in the country,and the ways in which the president's,statements can be mobilized by different,audiences,including to incite violence as well as,in the context of the pattern of,behavior from this account,in recent weeks we assess these two,tweets,under our glorification of violence,policy which aims to prevent the,glorification of violence that could,inspire others,to replicate violent acts and we,determined that these tweets were highly,likely to encourage and inspire people,to replicate the criminal acts that took,place at the u.s capitol,on january on january 6th this,determination,is based on a number of factors,including president,trump's statement that he will not be,attending the inauguration,that is being received by a number of,his supporters as further confirmation,that the election was not legitimate and,is seen as him disavowing his previous,claim,there would be an orderly transition on,january 20th,the president's second tweet may also,serve as encouragement to those,potentially considering violent acts,that the inauguration would be a safe,target,as he will not be attending now on that,point i have to say i had not been,thinking about it in those terms,at all maybe i'm not wired that way but,it's true right there's the president,simultaneously stoking,more of the grievance potentially more,of the violence from the same army of,supporters who just attacked the capital,and then in a linked message he,reassures them that he's not going to be,at the inauguration,just in case they want to you know make,themselves known there,just a little a little bit more here,look again this is twitter explaining,why the president is permanently banned,from that platform forever now,spelling out while why his final two,tweets were determined by the company to,violate their,glorification of violence policy they,say quote the use of the words american,patriots to describe some of his,supporters,is also being interpreted as support for,those committing violent acts,at the u.s capitol the mention of his,supporters having a giant voice long,into the future,and that they will not be disrespected,or treated unfairly in any way shape or,form,is being interpreted as further,indication that president trump does not,plan to facilitate an orderly transition,and instead that he plans to continue to,support empower and shield,those who believe he won the election,plans for future armed protests,have already begun proliferating on and,off twitter,including a proposed secondary attack on,the u.s capitol and state capitol,buildings,on january 17 2021 as such our,determination is that the two tweets,above,are likely to inspire others to,replicate the violent acts that took,place on january 6th,and that there are multiple indicators,that they are being received,and understood as encouragement to do so,and thus twitter has permanently banned,donald trump from that platform

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