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PHIL KERPEN: Biden's War On Energyjoining me now phil kerpin is president,of american commitment and
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PHIL KERPEN: Biden's War On Energy
joining me now phil kerpin is president,of american commitment and the and,president of the committee to unleash,prosperity he has a very interesting uh,editorial out about all of this phil,it's it's good to see you the thing that,really got my attention and you were,citing the wall street journal in this,is that you have um and going into what,she said because they're they're going,back and forth over who's drilling what,how and and one of the reasons why it,seems that the administration is at war,with oil and gas is because they say,well it's not clean we all have to go to,electric oil and gas without really any,intervention a lot of federal,intervention they've been using fairly,from what i understand clean extraction,methods etc and really been pioneering,this which is why to your piece it kind,of surprised me to see that they have,this big oil industry trade group and,they're urging congress to adopt a,carbon they want to get taxed carbon tax,for doing what they're already doing,explain this to me because this is i'm,trying to write my head around this,yeah i mean i can tell you what they're,doing i can't fully explain why because,it's almost incomprehensible uh but it,turns out that the lobbying group of the,american petroleum institute the,lobbying group for the big integrated so,exxon bp shell,not the small guys but the great guys uh,they have been shopping a slide deck,around town in washington calling for a,tax on carbon dioxide so essentially,attacks on fossil fuel energy uh this is,you remember in the first obama term he,did his cap and trade thing that passed,the house narrowly crashed and burned in,the center one of the major reasons,democrats got wiped out uh in 2010 i,think along with obamacare and the,spending and everything else uh but most,of us thought this idea was kind of dead,or at least that,republicans and industry would all be,against it so unless there were big,democratic majorities again it would be,dead,but it turns out that the industry,itself is lobbying for it which makes me,pretty nervous because,uh when you have a bunch of big,companies saying oh please tax us tax,our customers that's the kind of thing,that leads to you know bipartisan,consensus and bad ideas actually being,enacted into law and i think,uh that they would do it now when gas,prices are up more than 50 in the past,year people are getting absolutely,hammered um just really shows that you,know the idea that you know uh big oil,is so powerful and that's why we stay on,fossil fuels i mean it's completely,not true and we really need to represent,our own interests in all of these policy,fights and not assume that corporate,america is going to do it because,they've gone so woke across the board,that you know the oil and gas companies,now apparently are so worried about,climate change that they want to tax,their own customers that's that's just,wild to me uh and we're talking with,phil kerpin uh with american commitment,on this he's got a a piece out on their,website americancommitment.org because,they've been and you made a good point,out of all of the times that they could,have done this i mean they could have,been doing this you know if they really,wanted to a couple of years ago i mean,they could have pushed because i don't,remember them really going out and,really pushing for cap and trade but,that was also incredibly punitive way,more than what they're kind of proposing,now but still that would obviously mean,higher costs for consumers i'm just i've,never seen such weird strategy before do,you think that they're actually going to,be successful in urging members of,congress to do this because if,especially some of the maybe more,moderates and people on the left they'll,think oh this is great we're having some,we're gaining some ground where it,concerns uh green energy because they're,they're acknowledging it and they said,yes tax is more as a consequence like a,syntax but at the same time they usually,don't put two and two together and,realize this means higher prices at the,pump so do you think that they'll,actually be successful in getting these,congress congressmen and women to adopt,this,well i hope not it's interesting you,raise the syntax because i always tell,people the reason that governments will,never ban cigarettes is they you know,they make more money,yeah because of all the taxes and that,might be part of the strategy here as,well if we get them on the hook taxing,us then they won't actually uh get rid,of us and so maybe they think they're,buying their future existence with this,i don't know i mean i think the uh the,danger as i said is that it becomes,bipartisan otherwise i don't think it,can pass yeah uh but you know,i don't think we can assume that won't,happen in fact there are a number of,senate republicans that are now talking,about doing a carbon tax specifically on,imports so a carbon tariff uh senators,like bill cassidy from louisiana mitt,romney are talking about that they're 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