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Jonathan Turley: What the FBI has done here is 'disturbing'welcome back well Elon Musk now sharing,h

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Jonathan Turley: What the FBI has done here is 'disturbing'

welcome back well Elon Musk now sharing,his thoughts on the FBI after releasing,internal Communications between,employees and agency officials,suggesting the bureau had a hand in,suppressing the hunter Biden laptop,Story the CEO tweeting he is overall,very much pro-fbi before going on to say,no organization is perfect and part of,the FBI obviously overreached with,respect to online censorship okay,joining me now by phone constitutional,attorney Jonathan Turley a George,Washington law professor and Fox News,contributor Professor Turley thanks for,joining us today even if by phone we,always love to have you,thank you very much yeah of course so,Elon Musk says the FBI overreached with,regard to online censorship he says,there he's pro-fbi by the way but that,their involvement in Twitter crossed the,line with subjects like covid Hunter,Biden support for Donald Trump and the,list goes on what do you say,well what's interesting is that there's,really a loss of space in the last few,weeks or many of the censorship,apologists that are in Congress and the,media you know for years they denied,there was any censorship that there was,any Shadow Banning there was any black,list all of that was just uniformly,denied and because of musk we now know,that all of that were a lie that in fact,there was an extensive censorship system,that was being directed in part by the,FBI so one of the questions that we have,is whether Twitter became an agent of,the FBI for purposes of the first,amendment that the first amendment,applies to the government obviously but,it can also apply to agents of the,government people who are acting on the,government's behalf you now have the,company itself saying yeah we did become,an agent of the FBI we were being,directed by the FBI and that makes,things tougher for people who have,really struggled to tell the public,there's nothing to see here and one of,the things that is most disturbing quite,frankly is that when these files came,out the FBI attacked many of us who were,raising Free Speech concerns and called,All of Us collectively,conspiracy theorists spreading,disinformation,it was highly inappropriate because the,FBI has said that combating,disinformation is one of its priorities,so it's a very menacing thing when you,have the largest law enforcement agency,attacking Free Speech advocates,yeah it is uh it is incredible uh,certainly a lot of people thought that,something was going on behind the scenes,but they couldn't quite figure out what,was going on now it's all out there I,want to put up on the screen and op-ed,that you penned that says that when the,FBI attacks its critics as conspiracy,theorists as you were just mentioning,it's time to reform the bureau so what,do you mean by that specifically what,kind of reforms do you think are needed,now,well you know 50 years ago when,Watergate began there was a bipartisan,call for an investigation into the FBI,and other agencies in their involvement,in domestic politics and then eventually,they were also investigations into the,CIA and foreign intelligence agencies,they were part of what was called The,Church committee now that those,investigations reformed all of these,agencies now what concerns me is that,there was this cacophony of voices back,that the Republicans Democrats and most,certainly the media demanding these,investigations well that cacophony has,been replaced with Cricket and we it is,complete silence the media has another,blackout on this story just like Hunter,the hunter Biden laptop they are re just,refusing to cover what are now confirmed,uh practices like Shadow Banning like,the censorship program in conjunction,with the FBI the fact that the FBI gave,Millions to Twitter to censor people and,yeah all of that's been blacked out,it is hard to find any information on,this story of course we're covering it,here at Fox we've been covering it for a,long time but I want to ask you about,something you said you said you were,concerned that Twitter became an agent,of the FBI and of course that that,affects the first amendment I mean this,looks and smells so bad in terms of the,bias of by the FBI and other agencies,also the CIA and others but are there,any legal ramifications here,well we've learned some really chilling,things in the last couple years perhaps,most chilling is that you can have a,state media without having,sort of censorship by coercion you can,have censorship by consent uh you know,and really the first amendment dealt,with the classic censorship problem,state agencies silencing people what,we've seen last few years are social,media companies working closely quite,frankly with many Democratic members,demanding censorship of everything from,opposing views on climate change to,election fraud to many other subjects,and the question is at what point does,that cooperation with the government,violate the First Amendment and it does,if there is this agency relationship now,what's interesting about Elon Musk has,done and he has done

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Jonathan Turley: This is a serious concern for Trump

Jonathan Turley: This is a serious concern for Trump

there you would go Jack Smith named,special counsel in both of these Trump,probes ongoing by the justice department,John obviously that is the news that we,were expecting no questions are being,taken at the doj at this time but,widespread implications for what was,just announced yeah there's no question,about that Jack Smith quite a well-known,prosecutors would handle a lot of,high-profile political cases been,working at the international criminal,court at the Hague as Merrick Garland,alluded to there and he'll be coming,back from the Netherlands soon to assume,his responsibilities here let's get some,more analysis on this Shannon bream's,anchor Fox News Sunday and our chief,legal correspondent so we've got your,Chief legal correspondent hat on with,all of this because the the the point,has been made that,this investigation will not just be,about the documents at mar-a-laga this,is about January the 6th p people could,face charges as a result of of this,special prosecution including the former,president including some Republican,lawmakers potentially and if that were,to happen in a narrow majority in the,house could this investigation,potentially change the balance of power,in Congress it could have very broad,tentacles I mean that's definitely the,case when you look at whether or not,they consider charges of somebody,obstructing the ability to hold a joint,session of Congress those would be,things that would come up with a January,6th investigation but very interesting,that what the Attorney General said was,this will be done quickly now our,definition of quickly and what the rest,of the world thinks of as quickly when,it comes to these kinds of,Investigations may be very different but,he noted a lot of work has already done,Jack Smith is going to pick up where,that has been and add to it continue the,investigation from there but he noted,that we are in such a unique situation,because not only do you have the former,president announcing his candidacy he,said that really pushed this and the,fact that the current president has,announced he intends to be a candidate,too it sounds like like that left him,nowhere to go but he felt in his,Judgment of special counsel Shannon,great to get your immediate reaction,there we've also got Jonathan trilli and,Jerry Baker standing by Jonathan Turley,to you now for your reaction from what,you just heard what this means going,forward,Smith is a solid appointment I don't,think you're going to find many critics,he has an extensive legal background a,great deal of experience across the,board from public Integrity to,International cases uh it is interesting,you know the Attorney General referred,to obstruction a couple of times I,that's really where the greatest concern,probably will lie for the Trump team I,mean he he's the scope of this is going,to contain both the January 6 Riot and,the election as well as Mar-A-Lago as I,said earlier we still haven't seen a,very strong basis for any criminal,charges linked to the January 6 Riot on,Mar-A-Lago the past cases even the most,egregious cases,like okay have resulted in relatively,light criminal charges that is for,possessing or removing classified,evidence that is not the case with,obstruction so when we're talking about,obstruction that is something that can,come uh and has historically come with,significant penalties so I I think that,the scope of this investigation is going,to be a serious concern obviously,anytime a special counsel is appointed,it concentrates the mind of every,attorney involved I but I think most of,us are really looking still at,Mar-A-Lago as where those Torpedoes in,the water are probably most menacing,well let me just get back if I could,Jonathan the question I asked Shannon,that is the potentially the political,implications of any kind of prosecution,of January the sixth you said you don't,see a lot of evidence for bringing,criminal charges but with the special,counsel investigations you never know,what rabbit holes they're going to go,down I mean again with this narrow,majority that we're expecting in the,house if charges were to be brought,against lawmakers that could potentially,change the balance of power in the house,that throws this into an entirely,different political Realm,it certainly can either January 6,committee really was a fight in the,political Arena and it came with all of,the questions as to the authority and,jurisdiction and history of one party,hammering another this is a special,counsel he is entitled to pursue the,evidence wherever it may lead and that,is going to complicate things in,Congress what we haven't seen in January,6 is something that really moved,significantly the allegations of a crime,linked to president uh Trump much of the,discussion was the speech that he gave,that day some of us criticized that,speech while it was being given but I,still believe that speech is,constitutionally protected and I don't,believe a special counsel can base a,charge on it the question is whet

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FBI releases statement on 'Twitter Files'

FBI releases statement on 'Twitter Files'

I want to talk now with Jonathan Turley,who's kind enough to join us who,certainly has his perspective as a law,professor and dealing with a lot of,these issues to say the least so thank,you Congressman Comer now uh per usual,you know the FBI Jonathan he's going he,says the FBI has to be dismantled Etc,the FBI's admitted no wrongdoing let me,start with this they've admitted no,wrongdoing why would they writing in a,statement here sir quote The Bureau,regularly engages with private sector,entities that make decisions about what,if any action they take on their,platforms and for their customers after,the FBI has notified them Fox News,contributor Jonathan Turley uh what is,your reaction to that kind of statement,with what we know now from this recent,drop of the Twitter files,well you know Tammy what's disturbing,about the statement is it shows,absolutely no self-awareness of what has,already been disclosed I mean it's,showing utter contempt for the American,people the FBI could have said look we,find these allegations disturbing we're,going to conduct our own immediate,investigation to see if these types of,contacts went too far and instead,they're just saying well we did nothing,but correspond with companies that is,not what these new files are suggesting,they're suggesting censorship by,surrogate by proxy you have dozens of,FBI agents who supposedly were tasked to,go through social media you have 150,contacts with just one Twitter executive,giving lists of users that should be,banned including satirical sites there's,very little Runway left for the FBI to,continue to deny that there isn't a,serious problem problem here people I,think largely agree I hope that while,the the first amendment applies to the,government it also applies that agents,of the government so if the FBI uses a,proxy uses an agent like Twitter it's,still censorship it's still a violation,of the First Amendment,what's interesting here too and I I,think that Americans are frustrated,because with the FBI they seem whether,it was you know the Russian dossier hoax,you know their interference some argue,in the 2016 and 20 elections is that,nothing ever seems to happen are we,missing something that Congress can do,other than have reality television you,know committees uh you know every day is,there something that can be done,immediately especially with your remarks,about their statement which effectively,confirms that they seem to be fine they,knew about it they weren't outraged or,shocked what what are the options here,well obviously it's going to take some,time to build the type of case for,substantive change I don't think most,people are talking about dismantling the,FBI I think what the representative is,probably talking about was dismantling,these Troublesome components of the FBI,if there is a censorship program going,on and we do need to look at that but a,case has to be made this these files are,not just an indictment of the FBI,they're an indictment of Congress,Congress has shown a steadfast refusal,to dig into the censorship allegations,many of us have been writing about this,for years the Democratic members have,refused to pursue this and in fact,Democratic members have pushed social,media companies to expand censorship you,know in the very hearing where Jack,Dorsey apologized for the hunter Biden,laptop,debacle uh the the immediate reaction of,Democratic senators were to tell them,don't backslide on us we want more,censorship well now we have not just,censorship we have black listing we have,these shadow bands all of that is now,open to the public and so in some ways,musk has forced people to choose sides,and I think that some of the anger that,you see in the media borders on,self-loathing I mean they're having now,to embrace not just being censorship,apologists but blacklisting and Shadow,Banning and also lying because that's,what we've seen for the last three years,that's a lot to take on yourself and,still claim that you're a journalist or,you believe in free speech so it's going,to take a while but I cannot tell you,how long overdue this is we need to see,it all and hopefully the house is going,to pursue that,well great stuff and you have been of,course one of them this has been on your,plate for years and an excellent point,about Congress and their abdicated,responsibility or their complicitness,with like the Democrats I mean for those,of us who are classical liberals it we,used to be a you know a thank you,against the government spying on us it's,like we're in some kind of Nether world,uh Jonathan trolley thank you very much,for joining me tonight I appreciate hey,Sean Hannity here hey click here to,subscribe to Fox News YouTube page and,catch our hottest interviews and most,compelling analysis you will not get it,anywhere else

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Ken Buck Grills Jonathan Turley On Past Presidents' Abuse Of Power While In Office | NBC News

Ken Buck Grills Jonathan Turley On Past Presidents' Abuse Of Power While In Office | NBC News

so let me let me go with a few examples,and see if you agree with me Lyndon,Johnson directed the Central,Intelligence Agency to place a spy in,Barry Goldwater's campaign that spy got,advanced copies of speeches and other,strategy deliver that to the Johnson,campaign would that be impeachable,conduct according to the other panelists,oh why yeah it's sweet pretty broadly so,I assume so how about when President,Johnson put a wiretap on Goldwater's,campaign plane that'd be for political,benefit well I can't exclude anything,under that definition okay well I'm,gonna go with a few other presidents,we'll see where we go congressman,Deutsch just informed us that FDR put,country first now Franklin Delano,Roosevelt when he was president directed,the IRS to conduct audits of his,political enemies,namely Huey Long William Randolph Hearst,Hamilton fish father Coughlin would that,be an abuse of power for political,benefit according to the other panelists,would that be impeachable conduct I,think it all would be subsumed into it,how about when President Kennedy,directed his brother Robert Kennedy to,deport one of his mistresses as an East,German spy would that qualify as,impeachable conduct once again I can't,exclude it and how about when he,directed the FBI to he use wiretaps on,congressional staffers who opposed his,him politically would that be,impeachable conduct if it seemed to be,falling within it and let's go to Barack,Obama when Barack Obama directed or made,a finding that the Senate was in recess,and appointed people to the National,Labor Relations Board and lost nine to,zero Ruth Bader Ginsberg voted against,the President on this issue would that,be an abuse of power I'm afraid you have,to directed to others but I don't see,any exclusions under their definition,okay and how about when the president,directed his national security advisor,and the Secretary of State to lie to the,American people about whether the,ambassador to Libya was murdered as a,result of a video,or was murdered as a result of a,terrorist act would that be an abuse of,power for political benefit 17 days,before the next election well not,according to my definition to the others,will have to respond to their own well,you've heard their definition you can,highlight those facts - they're,definitely a hard time excluding,anything out it's how about when abraham,lincoln arrested legislators in maryland,so that they wouldn't convene to secede,from the union in virginia already had,seceded so it would have placed,washington d.c the nation's capitol in,the middle of the the rebellion would,that have been an abuse of power for,political benefit oh it could be under,that definition and you mentioned george,washington a little while ago as perhaps,having met the standard of impeachment,for your other panelists um in fact let,me ask you something professor Turley,can you name a single president in the,history of the United States save,President Harrison who died 32 days,after his inauguration that would not,have met the standard of impeachment for,our friends here I would hope to god,James Madison would escape otherwise a,lifetime of academic work would be,shredded I I once again I can't exclude,many of these acts isn't what you and I,and many others are afraid of is that,the standard that that your friends to,the right of you and and not politically,but to the right of you sitting in there,that your friends have decided that the,the bar is so low that when we have a,Democrat president in office and a,Republican House and a Republican Senate,we're going to be going through this,whole scenario again in a way that,really puts the country at risk well,when you when your graphic says in your,ABCs that your B is betrayal of national,interest I would simply ask do you,really want that to be your standard now,isn't the difference professor Turley,that some people live in an ivory tower,and some people live in a swamp and,those of us that are in the swamp are,doing our very best for the American,people it's not pretty,actually I live in an ivory tower in a,swamp because I'm,GW but and it's not so bad,hey NBC News viewers thanks for checking,out our YouTube channel subscribe by,clicking on that button down here and,click on any of the videos over here to,watch the latest interviews show,highlights and digital exclusives thanks,for watching

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Opinion | Jonathan Turley: Trump does not have to commit a crime to be impeached

Opinion | Jonathan Turley: Trump does not have to commit a crime to be impeached

-Once you hear those initial presentations,,the only conclusion will be that the president,has done absolutely nothing wrong.,-What this trial has shown thus far,is that the architect of this defense is Donald J.,Trump.,Specifically, he wants to take the view,that this was all perfect.,-The level of unfairness for a perfect conversation,with the president of Ukraine.,This was a perfect conversation.,Both perfect clause.,In fact, probably among the nicest clause,I've ever made to foreign leaders.,You know, I had a first call, which was perfect,,and I had a second call which was perfect.,-My name is Jonathan Turley.,I'm a law professor at George Washington University.,I testified at both the Clinton and Trump,impeachment hearings as a Constitutional expert.,-I'm concerned about lowering impeachment standards,to fit a paucity of evidence and an abundance of anger.,The irony is that in my House testimony,,I was critical of the House leadership,that they were adapting too broad,a definition of impeachable conduct.,Ironically, I think now the White House,is trying to adopt to narrow of a standard.,The President's defense is largely structured,around the argument,that a president simply can not be impeached,unless you allege a crime.,This argument is being put forward,by Professor Alan Dershowitz.,-You needed proof of an actual crime.,It needed be a statutory crime,,but it has to be criminal behavior.,What is very clear is that obstruction,of justice, obstruction --,I'm sorry -- obstruction of Congress or abuse of power,aren't even close to what the framers had in mind.,-It would create a dangerous precedent for the criminal code,to be the full scope of impeachable offenses.,The problem is that a president can many things,that are not indictable but could still be impeachable.,A president could put lives at risk,,even cost lives for personal or petty reasons.,To suggest that as long as you stay shy of the criminal code,you cannot be impeached would be a dangerous proposition.,Logically, you do not want the criminal code,to be synonymous with impeachable conduct.,If the framers wanted to do that,,they could have easily done it.,They would have simply said you have to commit a federal crime.,They didn't because they clearly didn't want to.,They wanted it to include violations of public trust.,What is clear is that this is the first impeachment,where a president is facing only non-criminal allegations.,Now, that doesn't mean that it is invalid.,It just means it's tougher.,Where some of us view this trial as a teachable moment,,I believe the President views it as a television moment.,-Also tonight the Democrats, they're heinous,,they're unconstitutional,and outright frankly dangerous impeachment fantasy,is getting ripped to shreds.,-And he may know the audience quite well.,He wants a single, coherent narrative, no nuances.,He wants the impeachment to be the equivalent,of a Constitutional drive-by shooting.,By taking this position,,the president puts particularly moderate Republicans,in a tough position.,Many of them are not going to want to sign off,on Dershowitz argument.,They are not going to want to confine impeachment,for future presidents to criminal code.,They will have to thread that needle in the end,when they cast their vote,,so you may find some senators ruling for the president,while rejecting the basis of his argument.

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Watch: House Judiciary Committee impeachment inquiry hearings - Day 1 (FULL LIVE STREAM)

Watch: House Judiciary Committee impeachment inquiry hearings - Day 1 (FULL LIVE STREAM)

>> NO PERSON SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO JEOPARDIZE AMERICA'S SECURITY,AND REPUTATION FOR SELF-SERVING,POLITICAL PURPOSES. >> THESE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR ,ANYTHING THEY CAN GET BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE,THE ELECTION. >> WHAT IS THE IMPEACHABLE ,OFFENSE? >> AND ALL OF THIS, WHAT IS AT ,STAKE IS NOTHING LESS THAN OUR DEMOCRACY.,>>> THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY STARTS A NEW CHAPTER TODAY AS ,THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE PICKS UP THE PROCESS. THE FOCUS ,MOVES FROM TO THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE MOMENT. LET'S LOOK,AT LIFE PICTURES OF THE HEARING ROOM,WHERE EVERYTHING WILL GET UNDERWAY IN ABOUT HALF AN HOUR. ,WELCOME TO LIVE COVERAGE FROM THE WASHINGTON POST, WE WILL ,BRING IT TO YOU LIVE IN UNINTERRUPTED. WITH ME ARE SHANE,HARRIS WHO COVERS NATIONAL SECURITY AND AMBER PHILLIPS,. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BOTH OF YOU. THIS STARTS IN A LITTLE ,WHILE,AND IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THE ,INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE NEWS OF THE ,MOMENT. WE SAW LAST NIGHT THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE ,REPORT COMING OUT.,IT IS A 300 PAGE REPORT. AMBER, I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU IS ALL ,EYES TURN TO THE HEARING THIS MORNING. WHAT WAS THE NEWS THAT ,CAME OUT OF THE REPORT YESTERDAY ? WHAT RISES TO NATIONAL ,IMPORTANCE? >> FIRST,,THE FACT THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER A 300 PAGE REPORT FILLED WITH ,ALLEGATIONS OF TRUMP'S WRONGDOING, I THINK THAT IS NEWS,IN ITSELF. THE,INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE SPENT TWO MONTHS INVESTIGATING AND TALKING,TO ALMOST 2 DOZEN WITNESSES HAVING A DOZEN OF THEM TESTIFY ,PUBLICLY AND THEN LAID OUT IN CLEAR DETAIL WHY THEY THINK ,PRESIDENT TRUMP SHOULD BE IMPEACHED. THEN THEY HANDED OVER,TO A MORE POLITICAL COMMITTEE FOR THEM TO WRITE ARTICLES OF ,IMPEACHMENT. WHAT I THOUGHT WAS MOST NOTEWORTHY FROM THE SUPPORT,FROM THE STANDPOINT OF IMPEACHMENT WAS THE FACT THAT ,DEMOCRATS ABSOLUTELY THINK THAT TRUMP SHOULD BE IMPEACHED. WE ,GATHERED THAT FROM THE STATEMENT,THAT THERE IS A REPORT FROM THE HISTORY BOOKS BASICALLY SAYING, ,WE THINK TRUMP SHOULD BE IMPEACHED. I SCANNED THE REPORT ,AND READ BETWEEN THE LINES OF WHY HE THOUGHT THAT HIS ,WRONGDOING RISES TO THE LEVEL OF IMPEACHMENT. I COULD SEE THE ,JUDICIARY COMMITTEE COMING UP WITH ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT.,IT SAID THAT TRUMP USE THE POWER OF THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENTS TO ,EXERCISE AUTHORITY OVER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH TO GET UKRAINE ,TO CONDUCT MOTIVATED ONLY INVESTIGATIONS,. PRESIDENT TRUMP ORDERED AND IMPLEMENTED A CAMPAIGN TO ,CONCEAL HIS CONDUCT FROM THE PUBLIC AND OBSTRUCT THE ,IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. FINALLY, I COULD SEE THEM WITH SOMETHING ,COMPROMISING THE NATIONAL SECURITY WHICH IS IN EVERY OTHER,PAGE. ALL OF US -- HIM ALMOST ALL OF THIS IS ASKING A FOREIGN ,GOVERNMENT TO INTERFERE. >> ONE THING THAT CAME OUT OF ,THIS YESTERDAY WAS THERE IS NEW EVIDENCE WITH PHONE CALLS,. WE HAD NOT HEARD IT BEFORE BUT IT RAISED EYEBROWS WITH WHO RUDY,GIULIANI WAS TALKING TO AND ALSO WHO DEVIN NUNES WAS TALKING TO. ,>> WE DID NOT EXPECT TO SEE THESE RECORDS AND THESE ARE THE ,ACTUAL TIME STAMPS ON THEM. AS A REMINDER, CONGRESS HAS SUBPOENA ,POWER. WHAT THIS SHOWS IS MORE EVIDENCE LINKING RUDY GIULIANI ,TO THE WHITE HOUSE DIRECTLY IN THIS PRESSURE CAMPAIGN,. ON APRIL 24 WHEN THERE WAS A CAMPAIGN,THAT WAS ANNOUNCED TWO WEEKS AGO. GIULIANI CALLS SEVEN TIMES ,AND THERE IS TANTALIZING EVIDENCE IN THE PHONE LOG OF ,CONVERSATIONS OR CALLS WITH A NUMBER LISTED ONLY AS,-1 AND THAT NUMBER MAY BE THE PRESIDENT. AND AT THE TIME THE ,WHITE HOUSE IS WORKING TO SET UP THIS CAMPAIGN. AND A NEWSPAPER ,COLUMNIST FROM THE HILL TALKING WITH RUDY GIULIANI AROUND THE ,TIME,THAT AN ARTICLE APPEARS IN APRIL SORT OF SLAMMING JOE BIDEN RIGHT,BEFORE HE IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE FOR PRESIDENT AND ,RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS BUSINESS DEALINGS WITH UKRAINE. ,AND THEN RUDY GIULIANI HAS A PHONE CALL WITH -1 . YOU ARE ,SEEING A LINK WITH ALL OF THESE TOGETHER. WHAT IS INTERESTING IS,THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL IS AN ASSOCIATE OF RUDY GIULIANI,AND HE WAS HAVING CALLS WITH DEVIN NUNES WHO IS THE RANKING ,MEMBER OF THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. HE HAS BEEN PUSHING,COUNTER NARRATIVES AND FRANKLY CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT HE WAS ,LINKING UP AND TALKING WITH AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS MIXED UP IN ,THIS ENTIRE PRESSURE,SUBJECT OF THE INVESTIGATION. IT RAISES A LOT OF QUESTION ABOUT ,CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IN WHY HE WAS NOT FORTHCOMING ABOUT THOSE ,CONVERSATIONS. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS ,HAPPENING TODAY. LET'S GO TO THE CAPITOL HILL WITH RHONDA. YOU ,HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THE HIGH PROFILE HEARINGS IN THE ,JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, WHERE WE ARE TODAY.,WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT HOW TODAY'S HEARING MAY PLAY OUT? ,>> Reporter: THE SIZE OF THE COMMITTEE WILL BE DIFFERENT THAT,WHAT WE SAW WITH INTELLIGENCE. JUDICIARY IS FAR LARGER WITH 41 ,COMPARED TO INTELLIGENCE WITH 22,. FROM WHAT I HAVE UNCOVERED FROM THIS COMMITTEE, THEY HAVE ,MANY VOCAL MEMBERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. FOR DEMOCRATS YOU ,HAD STEVE: WHO IS AN OUTSTANDING CRITIC. THEN YOU HAVE ,REPRESENTATIVES FROM FLORIDA WHO IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN OCTO

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Jonathan Turley delivers opening statement at impeachment hearing | ABC News

Jonathan Turley delivers opening statement at impeachment hearing | ABC News

Thank You chairman Adler ranking member,Collins members of the Judiciary,Committee it's an honor to appear before,you today to discuss one of the most,consequential functions you were given,by the framers and that is the,impeachment of a president of the United,States twenty-one years ago I sat before,you chairman Adler and this committee to,testify at the impeachment of President,William Jefferson Clinton I never,thought that I would have to appear a,second time to address the same question,with regard to another sitting president,yet here we are the elements are,strikingly similar the intense rancor,and rage of the public debate is the,same it's the atmosphere that the,framers anticipated the stifling,intolerance of opposing views is the,same I'd like to start therefore perhaps,incongruous Lee by stating in a relevant,fact I'm not a supporter a president,Trump I voted against him my personal,views a president Trump are as a,relevant to my impeachment testimony as,they should be to your impeachment vote,President Trump will not be our last,president and what we leave in the wake,of this scandal will shape our democracy,for generations to come,I'm concerned about lowering impeachment,standards to fit a paucity of evidence,and an abundance of anger I believe this,impeachment not only fails to satisfy,the standard of past impeachments it,would create a dangerous precedent for,future impeachments my testimony lays,out the history of impeachment from,early English cases to colonial cases to,the present day the early impeachments,were raw political exercises using fluid,definitions of criminal and non-criminal,acts when the framers met in,Philadelphia they were quite familiar,with impeachment and its abuses,including the Hastings case which was,discussed,in the convention a case that was still,pending for trial in England unlike the,English impeachments the American model,was more limited not only in its,application to judicial and executive,officials but it's grounds the framers,rejected a proposal to add Mel,administration because Madison objected,that so vague a term would be equivalent,to a tenure during the pleasure of the,Senate in the end various standards that,had been used in the past were rejected,corruption obtaining office by improper,means betraying the trust of a foreign,to a foreign power negligence perfidy,peculation and oppression perfidy or,lying and peculation self-dealing are,particularly relevant to our current,controversy my testimony explores the,impeachment cases of Nixon Johnson and,Clinton the closest of these three cases,is to the 1868 impeachment of Andrew,Johnson it is not a model or an,association that this committee should,relish in that case a group of opponents,of the president's called the Radical,Republicans created a trapdoor crime in,order to impeach the president they even,defined it as a high misdemeanor,there was another shared aspect besides,the atmosphere of that impeachment and,also the unconventional style of the two,presidents and that shared element is,speed this impeachment would rival the,Johnson impeachment as the shortest in,history depending on how one counts the,relevant days now there are three,distinctions when you look at these or,three commonalities when you look at,these past cases all involved,established crimes this would be the,first impeachment in history where there,would be considerable debate and in my,view not compelling evidence of the,commission of a crime second is the,abbreviated period of this investigation,which is problematic and puzzling this,is a facially incomplete and inadequate,record in order to impeach,president allow me to be candid in my,closing remarks because we have limited,time we are living in the very period,described by Alexander Hamilton a period,of agitated passions I get it you're mad,the president's mad my Republican,friends are mad my Democratic friends,are mad,my wife is mad my kids are mad even my,dog seems mad and loon is a golden,doodle and and they don't get mad so,we're all mad where is that taking us,well and the slipshod impeachment make,us less mad will it only invite an,invitation for the madness to follow,every future administration that is why,this is wrong it's not wrong because,President Trump is right his call was,anything but perfect it's not wrong,because the House has no legitimate,reason to investigate the Ukranian,controversy it's not wrong because we're,in an election year there is no good,time for an impeachment no it's wrong,because this is not how you impeach an,American president this case is not a,case of the unknowable it's a case of,the peripheral we have a record of,conflicts defenses that have not been,fully considered unzipping add witness,with material evidence to impeach a,president on this record would expose,every future president to the same type,of inchoate impeachment principle often,takes us to a place we would prefer not,to be that was the place seven,Republicans found 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The jury did not find her very ‘credible’: Jonathan Turley

The jury did not find her very ‘credible’: Jonathan Turley

constitutional scholar jonathan turley,quote depp walks away with a far greater,victory in the rejection of herds,allegations another loser in this case,is the aclu which helped write the def,uh defamatory column this will now,magnify criticism of the role of the,aclu here with more is law professor fox,news contributor jonathan turley i found,your comments about the aclu interesting,but also,there were two things that really struck,me number one it was her admission,that well i didn't punch you but i hit,you,the allegation of defecating in one's,bed,and then we had this this whole notion,that she was complaining on one of the,tapes that he would walk into another,room and then another room and then,another room,which indicated to me that he was trying,to de-escalate is that a fair,interpretation,well not only is it a fair,interpretation it does appear to be the,interpretation of the jury,you know these this is trial turned,almost exclusively on credibility and,the jury clearly did not find her very,credible in fact they found her culpable,judging from this ruling the key to,remember is that as a public figure and,both of them were public figures,there was a higher standard a higher,burden to prove,called actual malice this jury found,that not only was she saying something,that was false but she did it with,malice and he really,ran the table on these counts they found,that for every one of these allegations,and so they clearly did reject her,allegations many of us noted that she,did not come across very well on the,stand,what did you think why do you,think the other loser in the case is the,aaclu,and while the jury awarded five million,dollars in punitive damages it was,reduced by the judge to 350 000 because,the commonwealth of virginia their law,limits punitive damages what are your,thoughts on those two things,well first of all i've never been a fan,of these caps on punitive damages jurors,tend to,give punitive damages in a very small,number of cases less than one percent,but they are there to register a jury's,outrage to say this is far beyond the,pale this is not just defamation it's,worthy of something more and i think,that states like virginia really do a,disservice by having these lower caps,i've been critical of this these caps,for a long time,now in terms of the aclu many people,have been critical of the aclu for years,and how it's changed it used to be an,organization was focused on free speech,due process,and this mission of protecting,individual rights it's become more and,more political it's drifted and in this,case we found out that aclu staffers,helped write this defamatory,opinion piece and many of us are saying,what what were you even doing in this,realm why were you even involved and the,aclu selected her as their spokesperson,for abuse,and they just simply seem to accept her,allegations and reject the claims of,depth that he was not an abuser and of,course that was the response of,hollywood and the media we've seen it,before,now it's not clear that this is going to,be a redemptive moment for depp you know,once tagged in that way it's hard to be,untagged,but the aclu really does deserve,really a front row seat in terms of,blame you know they played a critical,role they dr helped draft a defamatory,statement they disregarded the,countervailing arguments of death or the,possibility he might be innocent and,they elevated this person as the,presumptive spokesperson for all abused,spouses,all right uh jonathan turley always,great to have you thank you for being,with us hey sean hannity here hey click,here to subscribe to fox news youtube,page and catch our hottest interviews,and most compelling analysis you will,not get it anywhere else

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