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Dr. Eric Topol discusses whether "pandemic is over" on with CNN anchor John Vauseso according to Joe
Updated on Jan 12,2023
Dr. Eric Topol discusses whether "pandemic is over" on with CNN anchor John Vause
so according to Joe Biden the pandemic,is over here's the U.S president,speaking to 60 minutes,the pandemic is over we still have a,problem with covet we're still doing a,lot of work on it uh it's but the,pandemic is over,that's my pushback from both sides of,the Isles and White House aides have,scrambled to contain the Fallout one,saying there's no change in covert,policy and the public health emergency,remains in place through at least,October 13th but Republican leaders in,Congress say the president's remarks,will make approval for additional covert,relief funding more difficult,foreign,Executive Vice President of Scripps,Research he is also a cardiologist and,professor of molecular medicine uh good,to see you again,thanks John good to be with you so,looking at the numbers just the numbers,new cases continue to fall the number of,in-hospital deaths is down dramatically,from just over 15 percent when the Delta,variant was dominant slightly about five,percent now with Omicron the stock,market certainly took notice of what the,president said vaccine maker modernist,stock dropped amid President Biden,ceiling an end to the covert pandemic,yeah all these factors which support a,claim that the pandemic has done the,problem is it seems there's no,internationally agreed to definition or,criteria,um which sort of means it's open to,interpretation,right John well I think the best way to,consider if we're going to have the,pandemic uh pronounce is over it would,mean that we've contained the virus and,they wouldn't have four to five hundred,Americans dying every day for the last,six months and you wouldn't have,millions of new infections each month uh,and we have absolutely no way to counter,long covet transmission infections were,not set now to get containment of the,virus the virus is just keeping its,evolutionary Arc and it's getting more,formidable and we already know of some,tough tough variants on the horizon,which are already in the United States,uh over the one percent level and,they're going to grow exponentially,well one thing is for certain is that,the coronavirus isn't going anywhere uh,and this is from a CNN opinion piece as,we near the end of the third pandemic,year the accuracy of most,prognostications has been Dreadful the,coronavirus always seems to be several,steps ahead of our understanding despite,our best attempts and while we may have,the upper hand right now in terms of you,know vaccines and better treatments how,quickly could that change well the good,part here is that we're in dissent of,this really tough ba5 way we're going to,have several weeks even a couple of,months where it's going to be relatively,quiescent but we know there's going to,be another way following this the,inevitability of these even more immune,evasive variants we're staring at those,right now so our vaccines may not hold,up as well against variants that are,very different very challenging and we,aren't doing well in getting boosters at,least in Americans where half the rate,of boosters of every other rich country,in the world here and the most,vulnerable people the people over age 50,only one in four have had a force shot,which is essential it's life-saving,prevents hospitalizations and severe,covet so we're vulnerable not in the,next several weeks when things are,looking favorable it's after that and we,haven't gone after the things that could,really secure the exit of the pandemic,like the nasal vaccines like the pan,cervical virus vaccines we're just not,taking aggressive steps to get ahead of,the virus when we have the opportunity,this is interesting because uh the who,boss the director General essentially,said the pandemic was well the end of,the pandemic was in sight here he is,we have never been in a better position,to end the pandemic,we're not there yet,but,the end is inside,he had an extra element of caution there,but talking about the pandemic in terms,of winning a race or a wartime Victory,is that appropriate in the sense that,you know we probably need to learn to,coexist with the virus rather than,defeating it all out together right,right,um well there isn't any uniform,definition of what is the end of a,pandemic uh how is it defined it's only,really defined when you look backward,and you say hey we went several months,and things were you know in good shape,we had some outbreaks but you know we we,didn't lose a lot of people and we,didn't have monstrous number of,infections so you can't you can't make,the definition and Proclamation ahead of,it you have to you have to achieve that,uh the other thing Dr Tedros who is I,think right about the end is in sight,but that could be a year from now uh,it's in sight only because we've had,built an immunity wall from so many,infections so many vaccines and boosters,and of course as you mentioned John we,have better treatments than we had,before but the key here is to the point,when we achieve containment how many,more people are going to hurt get hurt,how many are going
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