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Cuomo: Twitter must die | CUOMO

the fate of the Thunderdome of this,Reckoning social media specifically,Twitter,my take,Twitter Must Die,its current form is much more hurtful,than helpful unless you're a fringe,political player looking for cash flow,then you find a home,Elon Musk didn't start this fire,but he's a good accelerant so far,the place either has to change,to somewhere where decency has its place,I'm not talking about thought police,there can still be plenty of room to let,your ideas and your freak flag fly,it's not a government Outlet it's a,private business it can have rules and,it needs them,we know these companies can do a hell of,a lot better with their algorithms we,know they can catch things that aren't,true that are decidedly hateful that are,misleading we know why because you and I,will have a conversation on email or on,social media and all sudden we start to,get ads better relevant to what we were,talking about I wonder how that happened,we get all these opportunities to buy,things randomly pop-ups why because they,know we need their technology to work,for us in ways that don't just help them,sell things and if Twitter won't do it I,really hope somebody else is going to,launch an alternative and soon because I,can't wait to join it,it is no coincidence that while politics,is debated almost exclusively with,insights instead with insults instead I,wish it were insights we debate on,social media with almost exclusively,insults instead of insights but on the,floor of Congress can you do that hell,no,you are not allowed to direct comments,to a specific member that are negative,or ad hominems attacks of the person,can't do it,I hope that we can all see now why why,they have that rule and have had it for,a very long time if you allow people to,be nasty that's what they're going to be,most often and it will all but silence,rational debate,and that's what you want,that's what the midterms show that's,what this unease with people getting,canceled and not being allowed to say,things and not being given a platform,and all these sidebar conversations we,have now about oh I don't know why,people feel this way about this but I,don't want to say anything,It's Not Who We Are,I know what the majority wants you know,what the majority wants,Congress,platforms,not extreme left or right extreme,reasonableness that is the moment we are,in,that is a political and cultural,Declaration of Independence,d-e-n-t-s you free agents and I am here,for it and I can't wait to see where it,goes hey thank you for watching please,go to newsnationnow.com,newsnationnow.com and you can find news,Nation on your television provider and,don't forget to click the red subscribe,button down below then you will get more,of news Nations,fact-driven coverage

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No real ‘smoking gun’ in release of Twitter docs, radio host says | CUOMO
Shellenberger on ‘Twitter Files’: Investigation needed | CUOMO
‘Really scary’ what’s happening at Twitter, ex-employee says | CUOMO
Swisher: ‘Almost nothing’ of value in ‘Twitter Files’ | CUOMO
Musk broke promises to fired Twitter employees, lawyer says | CUOMO
Ex-Twitter employee calls release of docs ‘corporate propaganda’ | CUOMO
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No real ‘smoking gun’ in release of Twitter docs, radio host says | CUOMO

if Twitter does something to suppress,any form of speech that's not a,violation of the First Amendment because,Twitter's not the government now that,may be you say oh you're splitting it to,Matt taibi says the following okay he's,the guy who got the thing he's the guy,that Elon Musk wanted to do this right,for all the long-winded machinations and,internal memos the government was not,behind the suppression of the hunter,laptop story,taibi wrote quote although several,sources recalled hearing about a general,warning from federal law enforcement,that summer about possible foreign hacks,there is no evidence that I've seen of,any government involvement in the laptop,story,now look here's a little just proof of,the obvious when only one side of the,game is excited about something beware,okay because that means it is about the,game and playing to Advantage it does,seem though that the right is now on to,its own version of what it used to,dismiss as Russia Russia Russia,remember the former president saying,that well now looks like they have their,own version of this right Hunter Hunter,and they're going to be going after,Biden for nefarious business interest in,dealings with the wrong people yes no,irony that's what the Democrats did with,Trump now will they have as much there,there or not I think we're going to see,now I have a question uh about this it,has a suggestion to me and it's why I'm,talking to you about Twitter because I,was not impressed by the threat uh good,work for taibi,um but it didn't prove anything to me,let's bring in someone who is much more,impressed talk show hosts 660 a.m the,answer Mark Davis good to see you I hope,the family is well I told you I'd have,you on we are doing great Chris you did,indeed you made good on the Promises I,knew you would it's great to be with you,well the first I hope of many so what,was your takeaway about what you read,what is your concern what do you want to,know now,your setup was was quite good in terms,of a lot of this being a function of,being in the eye of the beholder uh the,left Democrats Liberals are instantly,dismissive of this for some,conservatives the hunter laptop has been,catnip for a long time so there's a,great deal of enthusiasm of rubbing the,hands together in anticipated Glee that,maybe this will now yield something it,hasn't yet there's nothing about the,Matt tahibi thread that necessarily,presents that Smoking Gun but there's a,guy who is about to be very present in,the news in the new Republican Congress,and his name is James Comer he's the,oversight chairman from Kentucky and he,says they're going to be asking a lot of,questions I look forward to the answers,I don't anticipate in advance what those,answers will be the monologue was going,really well uh for me until we got to I,don't know if you intended this a bit of,a myth of equivalency with Russia Russia,Russia something for which there was,never any basis for this there might be,I don't know that there is but I don't,know that there's not,well here's my feeling if you're talking,about the dossier I understand if you're,talking about meetings that were taken,and contacts that were made that any,astute political operative knows that,they shouldn't have done,that was the shame on the Trump uh you,know Trump and Co they took meetings,they shouldn't have taken they work,sources they shouldn't have take it they,shouldn't have worked and they listened,to people about offers they should not,have been engaging in now is that enough,for a federal investigation or Congress,that that's for you to decide but it,wasn't that there was nothing I have two,takeaways my first one is this,is there proof that Dorsey seem partial,uh Jack Dorsey the former head of uh,Twitter to the left yeah yeah,and is that worth everybody saying see,how bad it is it's a private company,was Dorsey more in the basket for the,left than musk seems to be in trying to,help the fortunes of the right it seems,like a wash and and that's their right,as the owners they can make their,business about whatever they want to,make right,you're you're correct about that but,there's I have a small there you go,again moment a small one with the myth,of equivalency but Jack Dorsey and the,people who were supposedly policing,content uh and Twitter were indeed,left-leaning and sought to forward their,own ideology while suppressing others,Elon Musk is no conservative he is kind,of a free speech let everybody in more,the merrier absolutist because he also,knows that attracts more attention to,him which is the thing that Elon Musk,cares the most about it's an interesting,thing that when Elon Musk removes the,muzzle from conservatives and ends the,days of Twitter as a protection racket,for the left everybody presumes that he,is he's like some Maven of the right or,some Republican activist he's nothing of,a Kind hey thank you for watching please,go to newsnationnow.com,newsnationnow.com and you can find news,Nation on your television provider 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Shellenberger on ‘Twitter Files’: Investigation needed | CUOMO

the latest edition of the Twitter files,number seven alleges the FBI and,intelligence Community were behind an,organized effort to influence Twitter,and other platforms specifically to,discredit the hunter Biden laptop story,joining us now is its curator,independent journalist Michael,schellenberger thanks for joining us,Good To Be With You Chris,uh so what's the headline here uh do you,believe I don't understand the why why,do you think the FBI and the,intelligence Community cared about this,story,well I I can't say exactly what,anybody's motivations are I mean I think,there was certainly some anti-trump,sentiment a desire to see body get,elected among a lot of folks but I can't,say what I can say is that there does,appear to be a very important pattern,here where both existing FBI agents,outside of Twitter pressuring Twitter,and former FBI officials including the,former general counsel the former deputy,chief of staff of the FBI we're at,Twitter pushing Twitter to censor the,hunter bite in a laptop story which of,course we now know to be a hundred,percent accurate that ran in the New,York Post in October 14 2020 you know,what's so amazing is how many FBI folks,were in Twitter but once we had these,internal emails the internal slack,messages the the direct messages inside,the company you can see that there was a,concerted effort in particular by the,former general counsel of the FBI to,really kill off the story really,claiming falsely that it was a result of,Russian disinformation when of course,Twitter or maybe not of course it people,should know Twitter itself was,discovering very small amounts of any,Russian efforts on its platform in other,words there just wasn't very much,Russian activity spy activity at all,going on uh in the year 2020.,but doesn't the why,haunt you I mean especially look the FBI,was being run by Chris Ray during a lot,of this right which everybody loved when,Trump put him in in there,doesn't that part haunt you like why,were they doing it isn't that the the,whole point yeah,yeah absolutely I mean look Chris I,think this is why we need a,congressional investigation I really,think it needs to be bipartisan I mean,another Congressional investigation,another Congressional investigation,is going to happen for sure the FBI is,of such importance it's the most,important police organization in the,country it's the organization we turn to,to root out corruption in police forces,to root out corruption across Society so,if there is politicization within the,FBI aimed at a particular goal in this,case to suppress and really spread,misinformation around an important piece,of evidence which has to do with the,Biden family's business dealings that's,a real problem I mean we have had in the,in the past of course we've had a pretty,ugly history and I do think that that is,why if it's not going to be the Congress,then it's going to need to be a special,prosecutor somebody to root out Rogue,agents or to root out any kind of,concerted or organized efforts among,existing FBI employees or former FBI,staff,um let's talk about you for a second uh,full disclosure I like Michael,schellenberger uh he helps me shape my,understanding on a lot of topics that,matter I look forward to having him on,this show on a regular basis I was,worried for you when you got involved in,this,um I was worried about you being seen as,being,um you know working for musk and taking,just what he wanted you to have uh and,putting it out and putting it out in,this kind of hard to digest tweet stream,which is not your way you're a very,clear and concise writer your sub stack,is great,um were you worried about getting,involved how did you get involved,uh not at all I mean I got involved uh,through my friend Barry Weiss she,invited me in you know my the only,things I've ever written about Elon Musk,have been very critical I criticized him,in my book I actually criticized him,almost 10 years ago I'm just not really,uh intimidated in those kind of,circumstances and when we got in there,we had free reign at the any of the,files that we wanted emails and direct,messages and and so I took my time I had,one article out uh about a week ago this,one we've been working on for almost two,weeks really gave us a chance to get to,the bottom of it I think people once,they look at the documents themselves,they'll see that we really had pretty,free reign of the place now there's a,lot of things that we weren't able to,get our hands on that are just for a,variety of reasons out of our control,that's why you do need an investigation,of this so but I do think that people,read the my tweets today and it is going,to be an article tomorrow they'll see,that we got some very important,interesting information that hasn't been,out there yet showing the extent to,which in particular the former general,counsel of the FBI was pushing to censor,this laptop within Twitter and it,appears to be in concert with other,actors coming from FBI or ad FBI so yeah,there's a lot o

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‘Really scary’ what’s happening at Twitter, ex-employee says | CUOMO

so what is really happening here we have,someone who dealt with content,moderation at Twitter like doxing okay,her name is Melissa Engel and she joins,us now live from San Francisco told you,I'd have you back,thanks Chris happy to be here uh first,happy holy days if I don't get to speak,to you before you and the family,thank you now as you understood it,would these journalists qualify for,Content moderation on the basis of,doxing,yeah absolutely Twitter had a,long-standing policy against the doxing,this included the sharing of personal,information,documents uh medical records as well as,contact information like you said what,we think of classically as doxing is,sharing of personal location information,really only applies to musk and a few,billionaires this also it's almost,ridiculous think about how this all,started with the uh one person's Twitter,account elonjet which tracked the,location of his personal Jet and it led,to Keith olberman being banned from,Twitter it's almost absurd but you don't,believe that the journalists who were,suspended were doxing him absolutely not,they were referring to this account only,he's got around that he came into a,Twitter spaces last night and spoke,about this he said if you there it's,called ban evasion they're hosting to,him they're posting a link to it so it's,it's a band evasion instead of just,posting the actual account what do you,think about what he's doing to the,standards at your own place your old,place yeah absolutely it's really scary,you had me on uh last week and I,predicted that there was going to be an,increase in hate speech and abuse but I,never predicted that this domain uh it,would just become a domain of one person,we all the Twitter old Twitter process,was incredibly deliberative one of the,things you can see in the Twitter files,which have been released is how agonized,we were over each and every decision we,were making and now it's down to one,person which inevitably leads to,something like this,I think that you guys were confused,about your principles uh and I you know,I can't criticize your role in it per se,because you know you had different roles,at different times but I think what,comes out in the files is standard was,inconsistent uh and it was a struggle,I'll give you that it's a developing,platform it's completely unregulated,um but I think he had a principles,problem and he points that out if that's,what he wants the Twitter files to be,yeah Twitter was a messy place but I,don't know how he thinks it's any better,now do you believe he has a recipe for,success,I don't and I'm happy to own up to all,the mistakes we made it's a difficult,process we definitely made some lots and,lots of mistakes but,um he definitely is not headed in the,right direction he's not regulating,extremism in fact many if he's so,concerned about public safety and doxing,many of the accounts he's let back on,when he purchased were banned because,they doxed in the first place right now,that's what they were paid for some of,the righty Fringe are coming up and,saying ah stop going after Twitter at,least he told you right away that you,were suspended I was blacklisted and no,one ever even told me were any of these,guys uh you know all these conservative,Fringe guys who really kind of blow up,on on the internet and sites like,Twitter were they ever blacklisted,yeah there's an interesting thing which,went on at Twitter,um where we uh tried to mitigate some of,the harmful effects of free speech by uh,not allowing uh people who had violated,our terms of service we we did ban them,from showing up to Twitter at large,although they could still be seen by,their followers right so they call that,shadow Banning and you said it had a,slippery slope in terms of what the,standard was it was part of the struggle,but my beef with you guys was you also,use those guys when you would find,provocative content that was what we now,call click bait very often they would be,adjacent that's why I never got the beef,from people on the right Fringe I mean,they seem to explode on social media,yeah it's right it is a true uh,amplifies extremism an amplifies outrage,that's what one of the things it does in,a study in 2021 proved just that,demonstrated that it was amplifying,right-wing voices because they were,oftentimes the most extreme I agree with,you that it was a problem that we never,successfully solved uh but I would many,sites have not why do you believe he's,letting,um Fringe conservatives back on at the,same time he's going after journalists,is it is it as obvious as it seems that,he's playing to a side to kind of,balance out that he thought you guys,were playing to the other side before,yeah I definitely uh feel it's an,attempt to drive engagement on the site,hey thank you for watching please go to,newsnationnow.com,newsnationnow.com and you can find news,Nation on your television provider and,don't forget to click the red subscribe,button down below then you will get more,of news 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Swisher: ‘Almost nothing’ of value in ‘Twitter Files’ | CUOMO

there you are the Twitter files do they,matter is the Elon Musk making Twitter,better or worse how about crypto you,heard about that guy getting arrested,right what does this tell us about the,future of cryptocurrency and all that,now that they have a one-up on Madoff,somebody who thinks about these things,and has very intelligent takes is Kara,Swisher the host of on with Kara Swisher,catchy good to have you thank you for,being with me again no problem anytime,Chris so what is your major takeaway,from the first five or six installments,of the Twitter files,from a news point of view almost nothing,um I think it was interesting a lot of,it had been reported and a lot of,reporters who have done some of the,reporting have have pointed that out,what I did think was interesting was,that see I just don't know what was in,there right we don't know what precisely,was gotten out of them what was,cherry-picked by Elon Musk or anything,else so the circumstances were,problematic from a reporting point of,view that said it would have been really,interesting if um if we could have,looked at sort of this decision-making,process in a much less uh partisan light,I guess I felt it was too like explosive,um and things like that when in fact it,was a very interesting look at how,difficult content moderation is and how,much these people try to do an,impossible job which I've been talking,about for years that this is just it's,impossible to do what they're doing and,it's it's not scalable it's all based on,people's opinions it naturally gets,people angry and everybody has a,different take and so I I found you know,a lot of the people there it was,interesting how much they disagree need,and what they did to resolve it and,ultimately how futile it was to to be,able to do this I have some concern as a,journalist about names I respect,shellenberger,Barry Weiss Matt taibi you know they,haven't come out and discussed like why,they did this and how it was given to,them now I get it on one level they're,saying let the work speak for itself but,the work doesn't speak for itself,because I don't know what they were,given I don't know what they were told I,don't know why they did this the way,they did it even the Tweet threads thing,I don't understand why they did it that,way except to increase the followings,I don't like that deal,neither do I I you know it was a lot it,was a lot directed by musk and he,pretended he didn't know anything about,it and then he kept flacking it it's,sort of like me writing a piece on,Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg who goes go,girl you know what I mean like I just,don't I I feel uncomfortable with that I,would love you know to for it to be,completely released Jack Dorsey,interestingly put a post just just like,an hour ago talking about just release,all of it and let researchers look at it,let reporters look at it the problem is,you just don't know what isn't in there,like they had a lot of right-wing people,getting subject to rules,um and they decided it was Shadow,Banning and it seemed to me it was,filtering over issues I don't know and,so that was a lot of it was I don't know,and a lot of it that was sort of there,was one with me it's like Carol Swisher,posted about January 6 and told him to,take it down I'm like it was public like,and it was like in big letters and this,and that like I did like it was in plain,sight and I wrote a column three years,before and several times about it no,context about that that was just my ex,for my stuff was sort of like it's not,that it's not a big reveal or secret,that this happened and another one where,there's one where it said secret,meetings took place by and it was the,CEO the chief counsel there's no context,it's like right those are the people who,decide those things I just would like,some more people who have much more,experience in the area to look at it,because it was really interesting to,watch the struggle and I had interviewed,yoel Roth previously and he talked about,exactly this but it wasn't like a can,you believe it we disagree like now he,was the former head of trust and safety,and that goes to the next concern about,what's Happening Here Yeah okay maybe,Dorsey was a lefty okay that's okay he's,allowed to be a left I'm saying even if,he were okay he's allowed to be musk is,obviously running as fast as he can in,the uh opposite direction and I don't,know that it has any principle other,than to be provocative to make Twitter,relevant,um again and he'll attack anybody for,any reason and your friend Joelle Roth,uh the former head of trump not my,friend I'm saying that you know,euphemistically never met him before,that interview because you so you,interviewed him and what we do know,friend foe whatever he's literally had,to take cover because of the threats,that are coming his way and what is that,a window into in terms of what musk is,up to Chris speaking of context he's,already been under siege for incorrect,things he was against that uh turning,off the 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Musk broke promises to fired Twitter employees, lawyer says | CUOMO

within the day of buying Twitter Elon,Musk laid off nearly half the Workforce,Now class action lawsuit against them do,they have a case he's the boss he gave,them months of severance does not keep,him safe from what they call the warn,act in the state where this is,applicable which is where you have to,give 60 days the attorney for those,employees Shannon lists rorden says nope,he's on the hook she's also sued Uber,FedEx Starbucks and another company that,Elon Musk has that you may have heard of,called Tesla counselor thank you for,joining us,uh thank you for having me so,why is it wrong to fire employees if you,give them severance,well so the problem is is that Elon Musk,didn't give the employees the severance,that they had been promised over the,summer when there was a lot of,uncertainty about what was going to be,happening Twitter promised employees,that after musk purchased the company if,there were Mass layoffs they would be,getting at least as good as severance,package as they would have under the,previous Twitter Administration,um and and then musk went right in and,just threw that promise in the garbage,so we thought that he wasn't going to,give the two months notice it's two,months that's required under the warrant,act what we found on Friday night Friday,morning was that he was going to pay a,number of people not everybody but a,number of people a couple months pay and,then give one month Severance but under,their agreement what they were promised,more than that two-month Severance,Equity that would have been paid out,over the next three months as well as,bonuses,so when you approach them and say we're,going to sue you unless you fix this if,it's so cut and dried why didn't they,say okay,uh well we find we just filed the case,we're waiting to hear a response from,Twitter,um we've filed an emergency motion in,court to ask for,um a notice to be issued to the,employees because here's what we're,worried about and exactly what he did,with Tesla this summer,didn't pay the employees what they were,owed upon their layoff but then they,circulated Severance agreements with the,employees and they were trying to get,them to sign away their rights when,people didn't even realize that they,were entitled to more under the law and,that they had an Avenue for pursuing,their claims because of the case that we,had filed so we've now filed an,emergency motion in court in this case,asking that employees get notified,because we don't think they should be,signing away their rights without,realizing they have a legal Avenue to,pursue the full Severance that's in that,they're entitled to Zuckerberg just,fired like 11 000 people why is this any,different,uh well I don't know the facts of that I,haven't talked with any of those,employees yet so again there's nothing,illegal about a company making decisions,to to cut back staff I mean the way Elon,Musk did this was was pretty atrocious,just coming in and axing half of the,workforce uh within days of him taking,over the company and then just,unceremoniously breaking the promises,that had led many employees to stick,with the company at least to see what,was going to happen during these months,of uncertainty why do you keep going,after musk is it personal or is it just,pay off why do you keep going after him,I I had employees talk to me told me,about what happened it was a legal,violation that is what I do I'm a labor,rights lawyer I represent workers I've,gone against big companies that have,thought that they are because of their,wealth and their size that they're above,the law when we had the case against,Tesla this summer musk actually,responded to it he called the case,trivial and I thought it was very,concerning that the richest man in the,world thought that federal labor,protections are trivial federal court,didn't think it was too trivial they,granted our motion uh is it true and is,it relevant that an employee put out a,comic that was related to Twitter where,it said it had a picture of musk saying,any Twitter employee who speaks out,against our tolerant policy of absolute,Free Speech shall be immediately fired,and that they were then fired,well I mean I don't know about that,specific circumstance but we've seen a,lot of situations already we have lots,of employees who are calling us um the,lead plaintiff in this case he got axed,last Tuesday because he put out a,message to his co-workers about how they,could protect themselves in the event of,layoffs he showed them how they could,download their documents so that they,could be protected if they didn't get,all the severance they were owed or if,they had to defend themselves and and he,was let go he was one of the first to be,let go in this Mass layoff just after,that so musk doesn't seem to be playing,by any rules,um one of the lawyers for for Twitter,today actually went out and said that,she was concerned that that Twitter is,not following the law I think that,really speaks volumes when you have a,lawyer 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Ex-Twitter employee calls release of docs ‘corporate propaganda’ | CUOMO

MattyB he's got part three right now and,this one is about Donald Trump in,January 6th okay his main claims are,that you know Twitter was stinky at what,it did it did it had an erosion of,Standards leading up to January 6 the,decisions by high-ranking Executives uh,wound up violating their own policies,and there was direct interaction with,the government as this was all happening,all right but what about it is,threatening to you or your interests not,clear this comes on the heels of Bari,Weiss's thread yesterday that said uh,Twitter was blacklisting or Shadow,Banning certain political content what,does that mean shadow man,um now they say and this was most often,by conservatives,did that happen was it this nefarious,was this what their purpose was I'm not,getting great answers and that's not to,be mean to the people doing the,reporting they can only go off what,they're being shown by Twitter joining,me now is fired Twitter senior data,scientist Melissa Ingle Melissa thank,you for joining us,I'm happy to be here thanks for having,me,so Melissa let's just uh go through this,about what should what should matter to,people,um that Twitter took tweets from the,president leading up to January 6th and,wound up limiting uh their reach,effectively censoring him to a degree,was that done in your understanding to,disadvantage him what was going on,yeah let's be clear of what's in these,Twitter files this is Corporate,propaganda released by uh Mr musk with,the intent purpose of,contrasting his current Administration,with the previous content moderation,policies to make him his own self look,good everything that's in these Twitter,files so far has been publicly discussed,for example by Joel Roth the former head,of trust and safety who in fact said,just that uh Jack Dorsey has spoken,about this as well absolutely between,Jan 6 and Jan 8th Mr Trump tweeted 140,separate violations of our policies and,procedures before we ended up Banning,him,so you're saying that he was saying,things that you would have banned if,anybody was saying them,that's right,being him using other policies and,procedures that we would use for less,important accounts it becomes a,political decision at that point,now Shadow ban we use the term all the,time but I don't know how many of us,really understand it I you know people,use it to mean that you're censoring,them but what is it really about the the,tweets are still there right they still,go out some people can see them some,people can't what does it mean,yeah so this is really interesting,process so uh typically classically even,a shadow ban means you're still there,but you don't show up in searches your,tweets don't get put on the timeline,lots of social media uses it Twitter's,policy has always been that they did not,use Shadow Banning and there's a little,bit I'm going to be frank a little bit,of verbal wordplay here to get around,that term if they are Shadow band,meaning they violate a policy and,procedure hate speech or abuse for,instance,um there's their tweets still thought,show up for their followers but they are,removed from searches so you can see,that in these screenshots by Barry White,said they are on these search bands so,they're still there their followers,still can see them they just don't show,up in general searches,but it's still a kind of a censoring do,you believe it was done with good intent,on Fair principles or was this about,disadvantaging righties and trying to,help lefties,yeah that's a fair question and I think,anyone's seeing these Twitter files,might ask that so uh,in what is going on with like these,large accounts that you're seeing is,again,um normal policies and procedures do not,uh apply to them at that point they have,to be that the bands have to be done by,a higher level entity that usually in in,leadership or the trust and Safety,Council so sometimes a compromised,decision is made to limit their access,rather than to ban the person altogether,but in fact if we were treating them,fairly they would have banned been,banned outright,but do you think it was about I mean,look you were you were a contractor for,Twitter you know you were one of the,people working on content moderation do,you believe Melissa it was about going,after or preferencing one party over,another,it absolutely was not our our policies,uh algorithm political misinformation so,sort of the heart of a lot of things,people are talking about and we did our,best to apply all of our uh bands uh,universally and uniformly across uh the,board and in fact Twitter released a,study from October of 2021 an internal,study indicating that they in fact were,amplifying right-wing voices in six out,of the seven countries that they studied,including the us including Canada,including the UK so if anything,right-wing voices were being Amplified,hey thank you for watching please go to,newsnationnow.com,newsnationnow.com and you can find news,Nation on your television provider and,don't forget to click 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all right it is time for the great,debate tonight's topic Elon Musk,reinstates yay Trump and Marjorie Taylor,green her personal account on Twitter,Free Speech matters or assuring that,Twitter is going to be left in tatters,we have two formidable formulators of,argument taking each side of this debate,Democratic strategist Michael Starr,Hopkins Trump campaign advisor Jason,Meister also planning to join the 24,campaign for former president Trump so,it's good to have you both I start with,you Michael why is reinstating a bad,idea,their consequences for reinstating,people like Donald Trump Margery Taylor,green and Kanye West look Donald Trump,used his platform to incite a riot to,attempt to overthrow the government,Marjorie Taylor green used her platform,to go after lgbtq committee uh community,members Kanye West to go after uh Jewish,Americans all over the country I was in,uh Colorado Springs this weekend to,visit a friend I had no idea when I got,home on Sunday that I would receive a,call saying that he was shot,him being shot can be tied directly to,the language that is used by people like,Marjorie Taylor green used by President,Trump used by Kanye West they're,consequences so should Elon Musk allow,these people on he can do whatever he,wants it's a private country it's a,private company rather but their moral,consequences for this kind of actions,Meister are you worried about the moral,consequences,no I'm not worried and I disagree with a,lot of what Michael just said but what,it what if this Stills down to is the,fact that social media is essentially,the modern Public Square and the ability,to and the power to censor social media,is the power to shape ideas and the,power to remove dissidents or people you,disagree with on social media is the,power to silence their voices that's why,in my opinion it was never right to,de-platform a man who got 75 million,votes and was duly elected as the 45th,president of the United States of,America I mean at the end of the day the,concept of free speech in this country,isn't to protect us against people we,agree with it's to protect us against,the people that we disagree with and I,think the best answer to bad speech,isn't less speech and it gets more,speech and I think that's where I come,out on this on this debate,decency concerns Jason Meister how do,you balance where is the line,look I I actually disagree with how Elon,Musk is going about this I thought that,vote poll that he put out on Twitter was,actually wrong because at the end of the,day if more people voted to keep Donald,Trump off of the platform I would have,disagreed with that position I think,Free Speech has to be applied across the,board I don't think Elon Musk or a,committee that he surrounds himself with,should be deciding who's radical on the,left who's radical on the on the right,who should have the ability to have a,platform there should be principles in,place and it should be across the board,that freedom of speech is applied,now Michael Starr Hopkins uh the concern,on your side is you pick winners and,losers and it's the ideas that the left,doesn't like uh that find their way,canceled as we call it today and is that,about Free Speech or just the free,speech that you like,first of all let's be very clear the,First Amendment does not apply to,Twitter it is a private company but even,if he did the first amendment has,limitations you can't walk into a movie,theater and scream fire there are,barriers in place and the same should be,true with Twitter when you give someone,a platform to not only preach hate but,preach violence people died on January,6. people are dying because of the,things that people like Marjory Taylor,green are saying publicly that's a,problem it may not be something that Mr,Meister is concerned with but when I get,calls from my friend saying that he's,shot seven times that's what I'm,concerned with and there's consequences,and when there's consequences you have,to do something about it so this idea,that there's just complete Free Speech,it's ludicrous and it's not really what,Republicans believe in because they talk,about limiting speech all the time they,went after tech companies for years and,now all of a sudden it's free speech,Free Speech well where's that free,speech for those uh you know drag people,who were trying to just live their Truth,where was their free speech,so one more question for you Michael and,then I'll bounce it over to Jason,I understand your point,let's put the debate on pause for one,second how is your friend,uh he's stable he's alive thank god,um all right he has been through just a,traumatic experience that I would wish,on no one,absolutely and you know that matters,more than any of everything we're,talking about here frankly um thank God,he's all right hey thank you for,watching please go to newsnationnow.com,newsnationnow.com and you can find news,Nation on your television provider and,don't forget to click the red subscribe,button down below then 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