take,our lead let's help you make your mark,our goal is your satisfaction let us,show you the way,related coverage bite dance founder john,yiming resisted the sale of tick tock,last year despite calls from his large,western investors to do so,bite dance which counts general atlantic,and sequoia capital among its,backers was valued at 180 billion,dollars in december,according to investment data research,company pitchbook,take our lead the app has been banned by,the government of india since,june 2020 along with 223 other chinese,apps in response to a border clash with,china,pakistan banned tick tock citing immoral,and indecent videos on the 9th of,october 2020,but reversed its ban 10 days later on,the 19th of october 2020.,take our lead gluck's statement,also said tick tock's chinese parent,company,fight dance will have no ownership over,tick-tock global,americans will be the majority and bite,dance will have no,ownership in tick-tock global gluck's,statement said,meanwhile bite dance said monday it will,own about an 80,stake in tick-tock global,take our lead the indian government said,the decision to ban the apps was to,protect the data and privacy of its 1.3,billion citizens,and put a stop to technology that was,stealing and surreptitiously,transmitting users data in an,unauthorized manner to servers outside,india,make your mark take our lead,there are no tick tock shares on the,stock market because bite dance limited,tick tock's owner is privately held,bite dance has plans for a tick tock,global initial public offering,ipo in the united states but they have,announced no date for the ipo,let's help you make your mark,the injunction means that tick tock will,remain online and usable in the united,states past november,tick tock was set to be effectively,banned in the united states on november,12,after president trump issued an,executive order in august,stating it was a national security,threat due to its parent company's ties,to china,make your mark take our lead,according to them a tick talker can earn,between 200,and 20 000 for a branded video,the earnings depend on the number of,tick-tock followers you have and your,engagement rate,meaning how often users interact with,your account and like and leave comments,on your short videos,take our lead six months ago,tick tock was on the verge of being,banned in the united states for its,alleged ties to the chinese government,tick tock was first targeted by the,trump administration in 2020,when then president donald trump nearly,banned the platform in the u.s,after it was labeled a national security,threat,thank you for watching please subscribe,and hit the bell notification
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How China Uses TikTok To Spy On You
How China Uses TikTok To Spy On You
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TikTok Is Worse Than You Thought
TikTok Is Worse Than You Thought
it wasn't always obvious in 2018 an app,called tick tock came from nowhere back,then tic toc seemed like just another,mindless app for teens where teens and,creeps would lip-sync to insipid,drug-like songs but in a matter of weeks,something changed youtubers commentators,the media tick tock became the new gold,rush to me the app looks ugly with a,logo that didn't look quite right but i,didn't want to be out of touch and me,being curious i eventually caved and,downloaded it and just like that,i was hooked my mornings would be taken,up by 30 second videos my evening stolen,by the buffet of dopamine i couldn't put,it down the endless scoring the constant,dopamine heads i had no control i'd look,around me parties gatherings cafes,everyone was watching tick tock i'd go,online to find tick-tock reaction videos,on trending i'd be bombarded by,tick-tock hats wherever i went i'd walk,around my city to see tick-tock logos,graffiti as tick-tock dances everywhere,this was revolutionary tuk-tuk had,achieved the impossible tit-took had,taken over the world no one could escape,its secret formula instant entertainment,constant doping unlimited content,nothing could compete tick tock was,perfect,little did i know,we were walking into a buzzsaw,after hours of extensive research i fell,down a tick tock rabbit hole and the,further i went down this rabbit hole the,more horrifying things became as what,i'm telling you today has been ignored,by almost all of the media almost all of,the influences and all of the corporate,elites and at the same time governments,around the world are beginning to,understand the true scope of what's,going on so let this video be a warning,to everyone who's downloaded this,insidious app and join me as we cover,the raw and unfiltered truth behind tick,tock,a question do you never want to be bored,again do you want fame,money to not feel left out,for success to come sooner this is how,it begins through tapping into your,innate biological desires tiktok has,been able to achieve 3 billion downloads,but behind our addiction to this app is,something sinister because on the back,of your constant scrolling and chasing,of dopamine someone has transformed a,lip syncing up for teens into the,greatest cyber threat in human history,so the question is,who,well to answer this we need to go back,to 2012. back in 2012 vine was the,closest thing you'd get to tiktok and,whilst vine was kind of big most people,phoned for facebook instagram and,youtube because in this time it seemed,like silicon valley was on the verge of,something great unprecedented to the,size of change we were so caught up with,our own creations that we never gave,china a second thought but back in,beijing something was bubbling under the,surface a creature called by dance now,by dance wasn't just any old tech,startup it was a startup directed by a,man named zangie ming and it was also a,startup that was littered with chinese,officials zhang's first movement by,dance was to create a news platform,called headlines but rather than this,being any old news platform that pays,for editors and reporters fight dance,was putting their money into creating,the most powerful advanced ai technology,imaginable an ai system more advanced,than anything seen before it this was no,accident in this time the chinese,government had a strong desire to make,ai a priority in the race for global,tech dominance but why was china so,obsessed with ai why was the chinese,government so involved with working with,this unknown tech company to answer this,let's take a quick look at what bite,dancers ai technology was capable on,this new site there wouldn't be a,curated feed of editors controlling the,flow of information headlines instead,use specially made ai algorithms to,select and push the news robotically,with the company never having to hire a,single reporter or editor to test this,highly developed ai system by dance,released the out of the chinese market,and almost immediately the algorithm,worked its magic in a matter of months,headlines became extremely popular in,china with the site gaining 10 million,users in just three months there was,only one issue all content that wasn't,aligned with the government's core,socialist values would be a legal,offence which meant there would have to,be at least one editor that's why baidan,has been so fast to publish a statement,thanking the state for its supervision,making bite dance the first ever ai,generator propaganda machine it was the,embryonic site for much darker things to,come,it's 2016 and the chinese government is,inching towards technological dominance,but if they were going to overtake,silicon valley they would need to expand,their ai technology across the globe,because back in the mainland ai proved,to be an incredibly effective tool for,controlling the population,they're constantly monitored by facial,recognition cameras that are able to,instantly put a face to a name,now the chinese are also ranked,given a mark out of a poss
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The INSANE Truth About TikTok (Full Movie)
The INSANE Truth About TikTok (Full Movie)
the world was collapsing around him,zhang yi ming was the ceo of by dance,the chinese company that owns tick tock,and as he watched the news his heart was,racing now president donald trump,threatened to ban it all together we're,looking at tick-tock we may be banning,tick-tock tick-tock had already been,banned in india losing them 200 million,users overnight,tick tock was at the center of an,international feud with users and,governments all around the world asking,the same question,can we trust tick tock,zhang was simultaneously being called a,spy by the americans and a traitor by,the chinese and other accusations were,flying around from all directions tiktok,is a data collection service thinly,veiled as a social network it's secretly,loaded with surveillance software for,the chinese government the most,addictive social media app of all time,they're discriminating against the,disabled it's essentially malware that's,targeting children tick-tock is a magnet,for predators wait,take a breath zhang switched off the,news and reminded himself that despite,all of the negative media attention that,tiktok was getting business was going,incredibly well if you added up the,combined revenue of twitter zoom dropbox,lyft snapchat shopify airbnb stripe,groupon and spotify all together,it still wouldn't be as high as the,revenue of bite dance,the company's biggest product by far is,tick tock which in less than four years,has passed 3 billion global downloads,but by dance are now working on several,other apps that perhaps have even bigger,potential they already make more money,than netflix have around double the,employees of facebook and are expanding,worldwide and unprecedented speed and,yet,how much do you really know,about bite dance sure you've seen tiktok,promoted everywhere and possibly use it,yourself but did you ever stop to think,how this simple chinese video app,suddenly took over the world,you see if you're like me and her,dismissed tick tock it's just a cringy,app for kids lip syncing and dancing,you're wrong in less than a decade bite,dance have gone from a four-bedroom,apartment in china where the electricity,kept cutting out to becoming a global,empire that is shaping not just social,media but technology politics and much,much more the inside story of how it,happened is incredibly inspiring and,fascinating but make no mistake,america's tech giants are terrified of,by dance and the real question is should,you be terrified too,bite dance is an app factory whilst,tiktok is by far their most successful,app when the company launched in 2012,they created 12 different apps within,just a few months,these included titles such as laugh so,much you'll get pregnant,and real beauties every day a hundred,beautiful girls at this point it was,hard to imagine the colossal impact bite,dance was going to have on the world in,fact they were even struggling to hire,people because of the low brow,reputation they developed early on the,company's founder zhang yi ming always,had big plans he was inspired by,business magnates like steve jobs and,had a dream of one day building a global,company that was as borderless as google,this was an even more ambitious goal,than it sounds because china essentially,operates a separate internet to the rest,of the world big platforms we all know,like youtube and facebook are banned in,china and likewise internet companies,that start in china almost never manage,to take their services worldwide so,zhang knew that to defy the odds and,build a global empire white dance needed,to think bigger with the apps they were,creating then one day in 2012,he had an epiphany while sat on a train,he noticed a decline in people reading,newspapers and the sharp increase in,phone usage and deduced that we would,soon get all our information from phones,but most importantly he also realized,that getting information from our phones,meant we didn't have to rely on people,to select the information for us through,a combination of ai big data and machine,learning it would be possible to,personalize the information to each,individual and show them the content,they personally are most interested in,and thus bike dance's next app was born,totiel which translates as headlines a,news app with a powerful recommendation,algorithm that provided a feed of news,stories tailored to each user zhang said,we want to become the information,platform that understands you best uber,matches people to cars rematch people to,information the idea was simple but at,the time quite revolutionary by tracking,every single tap pause and swipe by,dance's algorithm was quickly able to,understand users better than they,understood themselves instead of just,getting a random list of articles,curated by someone else the algorithm,would be able to figure out exactly,which news stories users would be most,interested in and give them a unique,personalized feed and the more they use,the app the more the algorithm learned,about them so the more accurate its,reco
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How China Uses TikTok to Collect Your Personal Data, and Why You Should Be Concerned
How China Uses TikTok to Collect Your Personal Data, and Why You Should Be Concerned
tiktok is the most downloaded app in the,world known for short viral videos it,has tens of millions of users in the u.s,oh i'm so over these gas prices in order,to operate successfully tick tock,collects a lot of data it tracks account,information search history any content,created through the platform along with,users locations and behavioral,information,companies like facebook and google,collect similar data but there's one,major difference,tiktok is based in china china has a,national security law that compels every,entity within its jurisdiction to aid,its espionage and what they view as,their national security efforts this,means chinese companies are required to,make all data they collect available to,the chinese communist party no,exceptions brendan carr a commissioner,at the federal communications commission,says that includes all the personal,information tick tock's been gathering,on millions of americans at the fcc,we've also taken a look at other,entities uh beholden to the ccp whether,it's huawei zte china mobile,and we see just a history of nefarious,conduct from business industrial,espionage to blackmail there's a lot of,reasons to be concerned not about the,videos but the underlying data going,back and mass to china an investigation,into the national security implications,of tick tock was first launched by the,treasury department back in 2019 then in,2020 president donald trump threatened,to ban the entertainment platform if it,didn't sell itself to a u.s company,bye-bye,through it all tick-tock maintained it,had never shared data with the chinese,government and insisted the information,of american users was secure being,handled only by u.s based teams then in,june buzzfeed got access to a collection,of leaked tapes from internal meetings,at tick tock and they told a completely,different story they had people inside,tick tock saying everything is seen in,china,they had a master admin person who again,was was disclosing that there was almost,no checks on what could go back there,tiktok went on damage control and,recently assured concerned republican,lawmakers that new steps are being taken,to further secure american data,including the transition to a u.s based,cloud services provider that they say,will soon be used to operate the app as,well as store american users personal,information,while it sounds like a step in the right,direction tick tock ceo also admitted,some china-based engineers will still,require access to the app which by law,grants that same access to beijing with,that data china is able to feed it into,its artificial intelligence systems is,also perhaps able to compromise america,a key part of the work that will still,need to be done in china involves tick,tock's algorithm china expert and author,gordon chang says that's the biggest,security concern of all through the,control of the algorithm china is able,to influence american public opinion,we know that in 2020 the chinese,military used tick tock to incite,violence on american streets,tick tock,drug usage in america and there are,other things that they've been doing to,interfere in our political process in a,rare show of bipartisan cooperation,lawmakers are now saying enough is,enough to have this kind of information,in a sense be vacuumed off a tick tock,into uh the communist party china and,what they have been doing with them,a lot of technology and data acquisition,scares the dickens out of me it's time,that,we put a halt to this right now the,senate intelligence committee recently,sent a letter to the federal trade,commission requesting an investigation,be launched into tick-tock chairman of,the committee senator mark warner says,he believes the evidence against the,company is overwhelming senator rubio,and i have said,all right federal trade commission this,completely falls into the area of a,deceptive practice that's what we have a,law,to prevent and you need to do the,investigation meanwhile the heads of the,fbi and the united kingdom's mi5,recently issued a very clear warning,about the threat posed by china the most,game-changing challenge we face comes,from the chinese communist party,it's covertly applying pressure across,the globe,this might feel abstract but it's real,and it's pressing,we need to talk about it,we need to act,senator warner says one step lawmakers,can take immediately involves passing,data privacy legislation he points out,this may be the last bipartisan issue,that can be addressed ahead of midterms,caitlin burke cbn news washington,you
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The Story of Zhang YiMing - Founder of Tiktok and Bytedance
The Story of Zhang YiMing - Founder of Tiktok and Bytedance
hi welcome back to another episode of,chosen the entrepreneur series,in this playlist i tell the stories of,those entrepreneurs that have had a,profound,impact on this world that we live in but,have not gotten the coverage they well,deserve,because these are the stories that i,found incredibly,motivating and inspirational,by shedding light on some of their,struggles and triumphs i hope you can,walk away,knowing a little more be a little more,inspired a little more hopeful or simply,with just a little more to think about,as always,agree or disagree with me your thoughts,are valued in this channel,so please leave a message in the comment,section below,now without further ado please sit back,relax,and enjoy the story the story of jang yi,ming,his story begins in the year 1983 in the,fujian province of china,neither rich nor poor he was a,millennial born into a middle class,family at a time when china had just,announced its open door policy,it was during this time between the 80s,and 90s china moved towards the,socialist market economy,and began to transition much of its,state-owned enterprises into private,companies,chang's father was among a class of,government workers that was reassigned,to manage one of such enterprises an,electronics processing factory in the,city of dongguan,and because of this enabled the,youngjangy ming to have an early,exposure to cutting-edge technology and,equipment,jiang's parents were not typical chinese,parents unlike the authoritarian style,parenting,popular most chinese families jang's,parents adopted a permissive parenting,approach,they allowed him to pursue his passions,and envision his own future,his parents were forward thinking they,embraced innovation,and welcomed new ideas,from an early age zhang would find,himself fascinated by his family's,conversations over the dining table,topics would range from discussing their,friends overseas tech venture,to the latest products being made at his,father's company,jank grew up in such an environment that,encouraged him to try new things,and coupled with having an early,exposure to spotter's business,he quickly developed a mind for,innovation and entrepreneurship,chang entered high school excelling in,math and sciences,in fact chemistry was his favorite,subject up until an accident he caused,during a lab experiment at school,from then on he reckoned his second,favorite subject computer science,was a much safer choice which he later,declared as a major when he entered,nankai university in 2001,jan was by no means a highly sociable,person in fact most around him would,describe him as quiet and reserved,he was a geek through and through but,upon admitting to university,it wouldn't take long before he became,among his campus's most popular students,his stellar academic performance not,only took the notice of his professors,but his classmates as well revered for,his computer wizardry,students across campus would often come,asking for his help,when they encountered computer-related,issues,and one time on a winter afternoon as,jan was working on a problem set in his,dorm room,he received an online message on bbs the,message was from a girl in his school,and in it she wrote that her computer,broke down the night before,she implored him to help jang agreed and,would fix her computer,later that day and when it was all said,and done,she was in all of him and he was,mesmerized by her little did he know as,he left her dorm room that night,this girl would become the love of his,life and to this day,his happily married wife,rumor has it due to jang's busy work,life after graduating from university,the couple never even hosted a wedding,ceremony nor have they taken wedding,photos or have gone on a honeymoon,vacation,but they never cared for traditions and,extravagances,their idea of romantic date include,playing chess on an ipad,having debates on business management,theories as well as discussing user,experience on new apps,they were made for each other,in 2005 after graduating from university,chang and his wife packed her bags and,moved to beijing,the country's capital city a city filled,with promises,and opportunities jen received a call,one night from an older university,alumni,asking jack to partner with him on his,new startup idea,the idea was to provide identity and,assets management systems,for corporations and enterprises a,service he believed was lacking in the,marketplace at the time,jan was highly interested in this idea,and decided to form the startup,however due to poor market positioning,the startup failed within a year,but this experience did not faze zhang,in february of 2006,he joined a new startup by the name of,kusun as the company's first software,engineer,kusum was one of china's first travel,apps used for booking flights,hotels trains and more it experienced,massive success later on and was,acquired by tripadvisor in 2009,and then sold to the matrian group in,2015.,about half a year after jang joong ku,sun jang needed to book a
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Who Owns TikTok and How Big Is Tiktok.
Who Owns TikTok and How Big Is Tiktok.
tick tock,pretty much everyone knows that name by,now,but not everyone realizes how big the,company really is and how much influence,it has after facebook instagram twitter,and snapchat captured the social media,market space,it was difficult to imagine how any,other social media platform could,penetrate the market,tiktok does not share the first origin,stories of the other social media,juggernauts,it was not created in a garage,or home somewhere in the silicon valley,rather tick-tock was a match of two,social media apps,what we know as tik-tok today was,created in china but under a different,name,launched by the company by dance in,september 2016 the app was originally,known as a me it was later renamed du,yin,in december of 2016.,the creators of the app took 200 days to,set it up,and within a year of his launch louie,had over 100 million users,with an average of more than 1 billion,video views on the platform every single,day,but do ying was never meant for the,chinese market alone,by dan's founder zhang yiming made that,very clear,according to him going global was a must,in september 2017,doing was launched in the international,market under a different name,tick tock,and by january 2018 the app was ranked,as number one free download app an app,store in thailand and host of other,countries,but it was the move the by dance made in,november 2017 that would launch tick,tock into global relevance and make it a,social media phenomenon,on november 9 2017,by dance tick tock's parents company,purchased another startup called,musically,for 1 billion dollars,musically was headquartered in shanghai,china,but it also had an office in santa,monica california,musically was released in 2014 the app,allowed users to create short lip-sync,and comedy videos and it was quite,popular among young audiences with,musically tick-tock saw an opportunity,for expansion in the u.s,and to make the best of that opportunity,tick-tock merged with musically in,august 2018.,the merch saw the end of musically as a,stand-alone app,with existing accounts and musically,consolidated into one app,and now only known as tiktok outside,china the merch was a brilliant success,immediately tick tock enjoyed,unprecedented attention in the us with,the celebrities like jimmy fallon and,tony hawk signing out for the platform,since then there have been more,celebrities joining the tik tok,bandwagon,including likes of jennifer lopez will,smith jessica alba and justin bieber,after merging with musically in 2018,tiktok became the most downloaded app in,the u.s october 2018,and by february 2019 together with do,ying in china tiktok hit 1 billion,downloads mark for global downloads,it became the most downloaded app on the,apple's app store in 2018 and 2019,outgoing facebook instagram and youtube,the secret of tick tock success lies in,the app's extremely powerful algorithm,that allows the app to learn about the,content that user likes to see faster,than any other social media app many,users spend most of their time on the 4u,page on the app,here tick-tock's algorithm puts together,a collection of user-specific content,based on the content user have,previously interacted with,on this page the app also presents,content that it thinks could go viral,regardless the number of followers that,the content creator has,ticktack offers users a huge database of,songs filters and movie clips that they,can lip-sync to,this array of diverse content available,on the app has led to a merge of several,communities within the app brought,together on basis of the type of content,they enjoy,or,on their sense of identity,the app has become a hub for viral,content turning out a plethora of viral,dances and bizarre trends the user base,has also become so powerful that it has,created a new crop of internet,celebrities like edison ray and charlie,dimelio turning them into overnight,superstars,but the growth of tick tock has been far,from smooth the app has been the object,of serious exclusivity from various,countries including india pakistan and,most famously the united states of,america,in 2020 pakistan banned tick-tock on the,basis of proliferation of immortal,content,however in 10 days after the initial ban,it was reversed,but in march 2021,a court in pakistan ordered a fresh pen,on the app after considering several,complaints made over indecent content on,the app,countries like india and the united,states had other issues with the app,different from indecency and immortality,from india a country where the app,initially experienced rapid growth,tick-tock was described as prejudicial,to the sovereignty and integrity of,india defense of india security and,state of public order the concern from,the indian government stemmed from the,mistrust of the chinese government and,so on june 29 2020,tick tock was completely banned in india,along with 223 other chinese apps,the united states also had a major,security concerns about tick tick-tock,former u.s president donald trump,attempted to ban t
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Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service
Joe Reviews TikTok's Crazy Terms of Service
the jurogan experience oh my god i read,tick tock's terms of service i went down,a tick tock rabbit hole yesterday yeah,it's good i stayed home smoked a little,weed and i started reading up on tick,tock yeah oh my god i'm gonna read you,this because this is so crazy is it good,or bad bad it's so what are you saying,it's a bad place to be listen to this,this is uh from tick tocks privacy,policy all right it said we collect,certain information about the device you,use to access the platform,such as your ip address um,user region,this is this is really crazy uh user,agent mobile carrier time zone settings,identifier for advertising purpose model,of your device the device system network,type device ids your screen resolution,and operating system app and file names,and types so all your apps and all your,file names all the things you have filed,away on your phone they have access to,that file names and types key stroke,patterns or rhythms so they're,monitoring your keystrokes which means,they know every thing you type,wow battery state audio settings and,connected audio devices where you log in,from multiple devices you will be able,to use your profile information to,identify your activity across devices we,may also associate you with information,collected from devices other than those,you know you use to log into the,platform meaning they can use other,computers that you're not even using to,log into tick tock they can suck the,data off that that's what you're,agreeing to,when you download and start using tick,tock,that's wild it's insane my question,would be do you think they did that they,created tick tock just on purpose to,have all that 100,wow i think they saw that people are,addicted to social media and they came,up with the most addictive version of,social media which is tick tock it's the,most addictive by far it's the best for,sucking people in my my kids are ,hook line sinkered on that and i,know a lot of other people hook line and,secrets to grown people it's good it's,good and it starts playing things,immediately the moment you turn it on,it's like playing you a new thing,playing you're like,you just sucked into it and all the,while it's monitoring your keystrokes,your audio settings but by audio,settings that means it has access to,your microphone that means it's,listening to you right now just tell me,how it ends man it ends with china,having all of your data,and if they develop if they get all the,data currency then what well you're,because if they look what's going on in,china i don't know if you've seen this,but they they pulled tanks in front of,banks to stop people from ,rioting because they just took all their,money did you see all that,yeah did you see that ,oh my god they have shut down people's,accounts and they're doing a social,credit score system in china and they,have digital currency,videos of tanks shows chinese military,exercise not bank barricade yeah,according to china and the ap but if you,see what what's going on over there with,the digital currency what they have is,the ability to tell you you can't buy,gas,like hey theo we don't like the way,you're living your life so you're not,going to be able to buy a plane ticket,china's a dump man,i mean there's cool people and i like,some of the food but,i think that i think it just i don't,know i don't like the way they're doing,it all,what any military exercise they're doing,when they're putting tanks in front of a,bank is intimidation at the very least,do you think the people there even know,what freedom is anymore you think,they're just so brainwashed they've,never had freedom like we have so no i,mean they weren't even capitalists for a,long time right it was a communist,country and then they realized you know,what in order to compete we got to,loosen this up a little bit and let some,people get greedy and make a shitload of,money and that's what they did they kind,of have a hybrid of capitalism and,communism you know because in the old,days it was like the government would,tell you what you do okay the government,would tell you what you get paid all,right and you just did what you had to,do you did what you were told right but,what they do now is they allow people to,get extraordinarily wealthy so some,people they develop industries they,develop businesses and they work in,conjunction with the government like,every business that exists in china say,it's a tech business,you are an arm of the government you you,know you're not independent from the,government like that was the the the,concern with huawei,like when they were trying to when they,banned huawei phones from being,distributed in america do you know about,all that i don't think so it's not the,gas station they no that's that's uh,wawa right what is that,you're talking about flip phones it's,it's it's a h,no they have super complex okay um,smartphones like huawei it starts with,an h,huawei had some amazing phones oh huawei,huawei okay,okay um and they had amazing phones that
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