research has shown the single biggest,determining factor in whether a happy,relationship will last in 1990,psychologist john gottman set up a lab,to feel like a lovely bed and breakfast,and brought in couples to watch how they,interact somehow this feels like a very,pleasant and a very creepy experiment,all at once but i digress over the,course of his research he found a single,action that he could literally just,count and then predict with 94 accuracy,whether a relationship would remain,happy when one partner says oh that's a,beautiful bird outside does the other,partner respond with something like wow,that is beautiful or do they blow their,partner off and ignore the bird it's a,tiny moment but that's what makes them,important because there can be so many,of them they pile up gottman famously,termed these interactions bids we're,asking for a small connection how's our,partner gonna respond and he discovered,that couples that would later split up,only turn toward each other 33 of the,time but the couples that made it for,the several years he was testing anyway,nine out of ten times point being when,the love of your life points at a bird,look at the bird it's the small,things that create connection in fact,there's another study that somewhat,counter-intuitively shows that happy,relationships are built more on how we,treat each other in happy times than how,much we're there for each other in hard,times but that's for another video come,on if you feel like it have you ever,heard the stat that women speak twenty,thousand words a day and men only speak,seven thousand well it's the,specific numbers will switch around,because it's an urban myth but there's,no version of it that's accurate a few,years ago two linguists looked at all,the studies on this subject and only two,of the 56 that they looked at had women,speaking on average more than men but,here's the crazy thing about this myth,it was first published and popularized,by james dobson that's right the mega,famous conservative christian,psychologist to focus on the family,sorry if you'd gone years without,hearing that name and i just ruined the,streak in 1987 he wrote that research,makes it clear that women speak twice as,much as men his hard numbers 50 000,words for women 25 per men and then he,extrapolates that this causes tension in,the home because men come home from work,and they've used up their entire word,budget for the day and women are just,getting started they're raring to go and,then somehow this fake fact weaseled its,way into popular culture sometimes it's,even cited inadvertently by well-meaning,secular mental professionals they've,just heard it so much they assume it's,true so many people believe it but next,time you hear it you'll know it's, and you'll be ready to point,out that it's sexist right-wing,evangelical pseudoscientific propaganda,have you ever been like corrected,for like using like like this then i,have some good news for you this usage,of like is sometimes used for emphasis,uh but more often it's used to hedge,what we're saying and when do you think,people started doing this can we blame,teenagers can we blame valley girls from,the 1980s nope and nope when's it from,then the 70s 60s 50s all know the usage,did start gaining new popularity in the,50s and really took off in the 60s,according to the random house historical,dictionary of americans playing volume 2,jazz musicians beatniks hippies and,teenagers but and this is the fun part,the first known instance of this kind of,like,is from 1513 in a poem from that year,william dunbar wrote dawn man is like,out of his mind replace yawn with like,the or something and it's perfectly,modern so if anyone ever gets on your,case tell them you got 500 years of,english history on your side if you like,being told that the way you speak,english is perfectly fine come along i,got more someone asked me to share my,hangover cure what the hell man what,makes you think i have a hangover cure,also sure yeah no problem i can do that,first drink a big glass of water and,take some ibuprofen before you go to bed,if you're too drunk to handle that,amount of forethought,pay special attention to my last tip,second put some more water some more,ibuprofen and a small but hearty snack,on your bedside table third set your,alarm for 30 minutes before you have to,get up fourth when your alarm goes off,drink that water take that ibuprofen and,eat that snack and then go back to sleep,so that everything you've ingested can,have its effect before you have to be up,and around fifth,coffee tea whatever this one barely,needs to be mentioned lastly if after,all this you're still feeling sick,queasy headache whatever you need to,just deny it suppress suppress suppress,and there are a variety of emotional,tools that are pretty effective for this,what i use and again just personal,preference,is a deeply entrenched sense of guilt,complemented by profound embarrassment,but you know things like self-loathing,are also pretty e
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REACTION | Abraham Piper’s VIRAL Anti-Christian TikToks (John Piper’s Son?)
REACTION | Abraham Piper’s VIRAL Anti-Christian TikToks (John Piper’s Son?)
folks your god needs a therapist because,it doesn't matter how bad they are,we are good even the most abrasive fire,and brimstone preacher doesn't really,believe in a literal help the bible,doesn't exist i'm not here to be taken,seriously i'm not you to be taken,seriously,okay some of us don't take you seriously,but apparently over a million people do,so it's probably worth it to give a,serious response,abraham piper is john piper's son and he,has become a tick-tock sensation with,his anti-christian tick-tocks,obviously this is largely because of who,his father is,abraham now has over a million followers,on tick-tock which means he is,influencing a lot of young people with,his criticisms of christianity,are abraham's arguments good let's take,a look at four of his most,interesting tick tocks i don't know why,someone would hate god so much hell is,hot,let's just take a quick moment and look,at the reasoning or the claim,behind that comment essentially why,would you hate god he'll send you to,hell,or you should love god otherwise he'll,torture you,well to be more precise we should love,god because god created us,and deserves our joyful love obedience,and worship,it's sin to reject god and rebel against,our perfect creator,and since this sin is against an,infinitely holy and righteous god,the punishment for this sin is also,infinite there's nothing unjust or,immoral here and it's simply arbitrary,and unjustified to assume that there's,something wrong with this,now you're absolutely right if you're,thinking why are you feeding a troll,but i wanted to respond because this,even though he's saying it like a troll,which is actually helpful because that,means he's being clear,he's saying what millions of,evangelicals actually believe,first let's acknowledge that this,troll's comment wasn't helpful,the gospel is offensive enough by itself,we don't need to make it any more,offensive with that kind of tone,second a lot of us are perfectly clear,about what we believe about how,the concept of eternal damnation,is postulated on the basis that the,crime,that is committed by transitory human,creatures,is a crime against one who is infinite,in his perfection,when you drive past some vanilla church,in your neighborhood,whether it's southern baptist or e3 and,they've got some cutesy sign,that says that prayer is like emailing,god or something,this is what they actually believe and,are not saying it as straightforward as,this troll,abraham actually makes a good point here,a lot of churches and christians have a,distorted view of hell,and don't believe what the bible,actually teaches about it and because of,this,they teach a distorted gospel that,doesn't treat sin as being as serious as,it really is,and the truth is you're a sinner but the,grace is,i don't condemn you it doesn't matter,that they have food drives in the winter,or put out bouncy houses for local kids,in the summertime,their god is so insecure he needs,everyone to love him and his top,idea to make that happen is the threat,of torture this is where he starts to,get things completely wrong,it's not that god is insecure and needs,us to love him,it's that god is the creator who,inherently deserves love and worship,from his creation,a creator is in a completely different,category than his creation,and what would be insecure and selfish,for us is not at all insecure or selfish,for god,of course a lot of people don't like,this idea,and will insist on viewing god the same,way we view humans,but not liking this doesn't change the,fact that it simply makes sense,the bulk of mr tabish's argumentation,has simply been philosophically,irrelevant he's engaged in the i think,childless assumption,that if he doesn't like something then,it doesn't exist he has the right to,superimpose his values,and since he doesn't like the god,revealed in the bible the god of the,bible doesn't exist,well i mean his likes are irrelevant to,what does and does not exist,just as mine are and god isn't,threatening torture to get people to,love him,eternal torment or hell is the,appropriate punishment for humans who,sin and rebel against their creator who,has the right to create humans for his,own reasons and purposes,now of course god is a wise good and,loving creator but he is also a just,creator who punishes sin and evil,you may not think that rejecting god is,a sin that deserves hell but that's just,an opinion that's wrong,folks your god needs a therapist no god,is self-sufficient,you're the one who needs help,understanding both who god is and who,you,are lots of people saying they wish hell,was real yesterday you hear that a lot,after notorious people die,we all have an innate sense of good and,evil that sin deserves punishment,but our own sin often blinds us to our,own sinful rebellion against the god who,created us,they look at the guy on the news who,hacks somebody up and they say,that's a sinner not me,they don't sin they make mistakes and i,resonate with that nobody actually means,it they're ju
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Abraham Piper Introduces His Father
Abraham Piper Introduces His Father
I think to some people who only know him,through his writing and his preaching he,can become a sort of sometimes a sort of,disembodied idea machine and I just want,to say a few things to show that to me,he's very real I think I've seen a side,of him that most people don't see,in fact I'd venture to say that you,don't really know a guy until he sat,next to you at the breakfast table,dripping with sweat because breakfast,times always right after the morning jog,and he would rather eat and take an,immediate shower I know him as the man,who would flip us in the air when we,were babies and he did this to my,brother one time in front of church I,don't know if he was making an analogy,or not,and he'd swing us around on broomsticks,when you're a little older I let off let,go one time see how far I would fly and,I broke my wrist I know him as the man,who didn't take me to the doctor for,four days because he and my mom said it,was probably just sprained,I know him as the man who take us to one,pro baseball game a year and bring a,book to,but it wasn't sports that bored him just,just baseball I know him as the man who,who in his sixties played pickup soccer,with us in a parks empty wading pool and,fought harder to win than any of us who,are half his age I know him as the man,who was disappointed with me,when he caught me listening to rock and,roll in secret when I was nine,it was Christian but I don't think that,mattered to him I'm not sure if I have,history just right but I think in the,80s drums were still of the devil I know,my dad is the man who taught me when I,was little what the word grace means by,saying that I deserved a spanking but he,wasn't going to give me one this is an,especially memorable lesson because it,happened once,he also had plenty to teach about,justice I came home from school one time,with a detention in the 6th grade and,the teacher had scrawled on it that's,the reason kicked another student I was,surprised and pleased at how,dismissively he was signing it when he,asked by the way could you kick I,answered,Anna his pen stopped in his eyes flared,red and he his nostrils began to smoke,and he said you kicked a girl some,things grow in memory like a fish that,you caught a long time ago but I'm,pretty sure that my recollection of that,moment and the punishment that followed,is not exaggerated at all I know John,Piper is the man who's going to send me,to a middle school that required you to,know Latin so I had to take summer,school to catch up and I was not happy,with him to my great relief I overheard,one of the teachers say that algebra is,algebra and it doesn't matter whether,you teach it to the glory of God or not,I passed this juicy tidbit on to my day,I know it was very pleased shortly,thereafter when my time at that,institution was cut short,I won't say I don't know how to push his,buttons hey I know John Piper is the man,who sat next to me an understanding,silence when I was 19 and having girl,troubles at times like these I'm sure he,would have preferred to tell me to get,it together and stop being a screw-up,but he never has I know as the man who,sat with me at Devon E's pizza while I,told him I wasn't really into the kind,of girl I should probably marry and,anyone who would marry me I probably,shouldn't,and his prophetic response was perhaps,but what about Molly I know him as the,kind of man who did not seem at all,upset when I proposed to Molly five,months sooner than he told me I ought to,and I know him as the man who threw up,his hands with a happy shout when Molly,and I announced our surprise of a,pregnancy five months after we were,married and I know him as the man who,was the first person I wanted and needed,to call when we went into the hospital,with her next baby and discovered that,she didn't have a heartbeat in you,anymore John Piper is a great man not,because he has a big church or lots of,people read his books or know who he is,it's good he's a pastor good he's a,scholar good he's an author but it's,best for me at least that he's a father,that he's my dad I admire him and I'm,eager now to listen to him come and,admire his own father
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Abraham Piper's 9 most sacrilegious takes
Abraham Piper's 9 most sacrilegious takes
all right deal here are the five sexiest,men in the bible one absalom because the,bible literally calls him that to joseph,he went from being a slave to second in,command in egypt and,his boss's wife tried to seduce him,probably sexy three john the apostle he,was the fastest guy in his friend group,so he was probably pretty fit he never,mentioned himself when he was writing so,he's humble and after dinner time he'd,cuddle up with jesus which shows he was,very comfortable with his sexuality,whatever that was for jonathan david,could have anyone in the kingdom and he,loved jonathan the best if he was good,enough for david number five is going to,come out of left field lazarus let me,explain i think it's fair to guess that,if jesus raised him from the dead he,also healed the wounds of his,decomposition so he's not disgusting,anymore even though he was part rotten,also we know that he was beloved in his,community was he good looking i don't,know we know he was winsome and he has,literally experienced death i feel like,knowing death makes a person sexy we all,have different tastes that would do it,for me there you have it maybe i'll make,a series responding to all your,disagreements come along if you feel,like it you get a chance to talk to god,you're allowed one question just go with,me on this it's gonna take a direction,you don't expect i think i would get,stymied in the moment and probably say,what the has i looked around me and,then that would count as my question,that'd be out of left but alan watts,suggests that the question to ask is,what question should i ask it's like in,hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy we have,the answer but what's the,question and then what suggests that the,way god would answer is like why do you,want to have a question it's because,you'd feel like something was wrong if,you didn't have one if we did not have,questions we would have a problem with,the absence of questions problems go,away and the new problem is an absence,of problems so that's how i'm going to,look at my difficulties today if it,weren't these it'd be some others now,some are better than than others there's,there's no question but a problem-free,philosophy it's meaningless this is why,it's so interesting and important to me,personally to address my problems by,thinking about them differently i don't,necessarily need them to go away hope,some of them do but if i can think about,them from a fresh perspective they stay,but they don't me up hey if you,like reframing stuff instead of actually,fixing anything come along i got more,you want to know one of the silliest,things about being raised about lee,evangelical children are expected to,read the bible if that doesn't seem,weird to you stick with me for a second,you might think of the bible as for god,so loved the world or that one,emotionally lucid moment paul had when,he wrote about love and now everyone,reads it at their weddings but those are,the boring parts to a kid anyways while,other kids are learning to read with,comics or whatever normal parents have,around the house here fundy kids are six,seven eight years old devouring stories,of jezebel being defenestrated and then,eaten by dogs or judas's bowels bursting,out or noah's sons laughing at him when,he was passed out drunk and naked or,lot's daughters who got him drunk and,screwed him so they could have babies,and those are just a few highlights off,the top of my head decades later the,good book is full of children stories,like these it's basically game of,thrones except if you don't read it you,go to hell i almost forgot about all the,times i went back to song of solomon so,i could read about breasts i'm thinking,maybe the message of god's word didn't,land on me like it was supposed to hey,if you're deconstructing good for you,there are a lot of serious thinkers out,there that can help you navigate this,stuff but if you just want to roll your,eyes on how weird it all was,that's what i'm here for,stick around if you want to here's a,funny inconsistency in evangelical,christianity they believe that the bible,is perfect can't be added to and they,think that jesus is perfect but you,can't have both if jesus was perfect let,alone god then everything he said is,similarly worth hearing and he taught,for three years so not everything he,expounded upon is in the bible if,theoretically some more words of jesus,were discovered,they would belong in the bible but,that's not allowed the bible's perfect,as is now this inconsistency is,benign and trivial and christians don't,really have to face it or deal with it,anyway because,of the extreme unlikelihood that new,words from jesus will be unearthed but,the funny contradiction remains either,jesus is perfect or the bible is not,both we could vote on which one we like,better jesus or the bible since one of,them's off the island the island of,perfection,anyway if you like a harmless chuckle,like christianity mixed in with your,grammar videos come along i got more the,worst bible s
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Abraham Piper and What No One is Saying
Abraham Piper and What No One is Saying
hey grace to you,and welcome if this is your first time,to the channel welcome my name is caleb,and uh today i want to talk about,abraham piper now a lot of people have,talked about abraham piper if you don't,know who abraham piper is that is john,piper's son,and,a lot of people have talked about,abraham piper he is a well-known,tick-tock,personality if you will,i don't have tick tock because i'm over,the age of 40 and apparently it's out of,my age range,but,nonetheless,uh abraham piper has done very well in,tick-tock he has almost a million,followers if not over a million,followers at this point,um he like i said he is the son of,theologian and evangel and evangelical,uh preacher,john piper,now dr john piper has five children i,believe,and abraham is,one who has left the faith,and has made quite a stir among,evangelicals concerning his criticism of,evangelical christianity and,fundamentalism for fundamentalism,for that matter,so,in most videos where people look at,abraham piper what they do is they play,something that abraham piper said and,then they respond to it so for instance,doug wilson has done several great,videos responding to abraham piper and,you can find his videos,on the canon press youtube channel and,he has a whole series that just looks at,abraham piper's tick-tock videos uh for,those who are going to jump onto,tick-tock and take a look at abraham,piper,just know that he does use profanity and,uh also,bashing evangelicalism is not his only,hobby on tick tock uh in fact i i kind,of went down the,tick tock rabbit hole today looking at,abraham's,page and notice that there's actually,quite a few,different videos that he has about all,sorts of different subjects and so,although obviously,evangelicalism and fundamentalism is,things that he does focus on from time,to time okay so,abraham has said in the past i don't,attack christianity uh he says i berate,evangelicalism and fundamentalism,uh,he says,he says that evangelicalism is a,destructive,narrow-minded worldview,and uh,he says uh it is,a toddler tradition that cousins with,catholicism in eastern orthodoxy,and the snot-nosed little sibling of,mainline protestant denominations,he says it's bizarre anti-intellectual,bs,i'm,shortening that word for you,um so all of that to say what most,people do is they look at certain things,that piper says and then they respond,and show why they think,he's wrong i think that there are two,issues that people really haven't,touched on in videos about abraham piper,and the work that he's doing on,tick-tock uh,piper is an entrepreneur he's um,he's actually made several different,companies and and is has done very well,uh apparently from what i've read he's a,multi-millionaire and because of his,blog and other things that he's done,and so he's taken after his father in,the idea of just being able to speak,well to people and to organize,and,to probably lead people,so,with all of that said what are the two,things i want to talk about well the two,things i want to talk about in regard to,abraham piper is number one,this can this should show us and teach,us that just because a person is a man,of god,like john piper is and loves the lord,that does not necessarily mean that his,children will do the same now,it should quickly be noted that barnabas,piper is actually a pastor that's one of,john's other sons,so barnabas is a pastor and and uh and,has written some books and whatnot so,it's,basically we can see that uh the lord's,sovereignty,is is not a given in other words uh it's,his i shouldn't say that that's,let me rephrase that god's choosing is,not a given in other words just because,uh john piper,is a great theologian does not,necessarily mean that his children will,be the same and i think that this,actually barnabas has talked about this,in his book on being a pastor's kid,a lot of pressure is put on to pastor,kids to grow up with the same faith,and,i think a lot of pastors try to shelter,their family from the onslaught of their,kids messing up,and this,ultimately can be a problem i think,and so,the other thing that we need to realize,about this is that john piper is a man,just like everyone else and uh,i think that a lot of the time uh,theologians and or pastors are put onto,a pedestal where it's just believed that,because they uh they love the lord and,because they're teaching other people,that they don't um have downfalls in,certain ways i don't know john's,personal life dr piper's personal life i,don't know what he was like as a father,i i don't want to down him in any way,shape or form i highly respect,dr piper but all of that to say as a,person who is in ministry full-time and,is a pastor of a small little church,i can tell you that my life and my walk,with the lord is the same as other,people i fall i,have struggles in parenting and and i,um,just like everyone else right so i can,only imagine that the same goes for,other people that are in ministry as,well including dr piper and so uh,i think that we just need
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Abraham Piper Doesn't Like Hell | Doug Wilson
Abraham Piper Doesn't Like Hell | Doug Wilson
welcome to another interaction with one,of abraham piper's,tick-tock videos,their god is so insecure he needs,everyone to love him,it used to be back in the days of the,reformation we'd write big fat books and,volumes and days before that there were,scrolls and,and now we're doing stuff on tick tock,good grief,i don't know why someone would hate god,so much hell is hot let's just take a,quick moment and look at the reasoning,or the claim,behind that comment,i want you to notice here that he,interacts with the claim that hell is,hot and doesn't interact at all with why,would that man hate god so much that's,the thing that really needs to be,interacted with,essentially why would you hate god he'll,send you to hell or you should love god,otherwise he'll torture you,yeah as though hell is god applying,external tortures for no particular,reason to people who are essentially,good instead of understanding hell as,the culmination point as the final,destination point where we as sinners,apart from christ become what we've been,intent on becoming,the wrath of god is visited from heaven,against unrighteousness all the,unrighteousness of men it says in romans,1 and it says this repeatedly,the wrath of god is god gave them up god,gave them up so hell is not god saying,wait hold on for a minute let me go to,my um to the armory for my torture,chamber and come up with some,excruciating tortures from you,for you that i will apply to you,externally and let me arrange for a,really miserable existence for you in,hell no hell is where god says to,someone like abraham piper have it your,way,keep going keep going that way and,you're going to descend,into the outer darkness and if someone,will not have god if someone will not be,in communion with god then they bring,their own hell with them now you're,absolutely right if you're thinking why,the are you feeding a troll but i,wanted to respond because this,even though he's saying it like a troll,which is actually helpful because that,means he's being clear he's saying what,millions of evangelicals actually,believe,well we actually believe that there is,such a thing as damnation we actually,believe there is such a thing as hell we,actually believe that there is such a,thing as eternal misery but we do not,believe we don't don't get our theology,of hell from far side cartoons where you,have subterranean caverns and demons,with pitchforks that's that's not what,we're uh that's what we believe but he,wants to talk as though we do,when you drive past some vanilla church,in your neighborhood whether it's,southern baptist or e3,thus displaying his extensive knowledge,of the denominations of north america,ranges all the way from southern baptist,to eve,to free and they've got some cutesy sign,that says that prayer is like emailing,god or some,this is what they actually believe and,are not saying it as straightforward as,this troll it doesn't matter that they,have food drives in the winter or put,out bouncy houses for local kids in the,summertime it doesn't matter what good,things christians do i'm gonna make fun,of them regardless,their god is so insecure he needs,everyone to love him and,god is so secure that he is able to tell,us that unless we love him we are going,to be eternally miserable all right so,god is not god is not he did not create,us because he was lonesome he did not,create the world because he was filling,up any need in himself,but when he created the world and when,he made creatures like us,of necessity since he is a necessary,being and we are contingent beings we,have to be in fellowship with the ground,of our existence we have to be in,fellowship with the father who created,us we otherwise if we're not in,fellowship with the ultimate one we are,going to be of necessity miserable and,that eternal misery is precisely what,damnation is so it's not a matter of god,being insecure it's god being secure,enough to tell us that unless we have,him we have nothing top idea to make,that happen is the threat of torture,the threat the the the threat or the,explanation of what that torture,consists of in romans one,what how's the wrath of god described,therefore god gave them up therefore god,gave them up god says to man when his,wrath is revealed from heaven against,our unrighteousness is he says to this,to us,have it your way,folks your god needs a therapist,your god needs a therapist so there's a,very interesting thing going on here uh,let's say we arranged an appointment for,our god to see a therapist,uh,what organization does this therapist,belonged to where did he get his,training if you're going to arraign god,and bring him into court who's the judge,in that court,all right what abraham is doing here is,he is he is acting the part of a,dogmatic agnostic,he is saying basically i'm i have,replaced my belief in god with nothing,and i am just going to uh,do bits and past patches here and there,and i'm going to pronounce on life with,an implied standard i want to know where,he gets t
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Should a pastor continue in ministry if one of his children proves to be an unbeliever?
Should a pastor continue in ministry if one of his children proves to be an unbeliever?
should a pastor,continue in ministry if one of his sons,arriving at a mature age proves to be,an unbeliever well,as you know that hits,close to home and so maybe the best,thing i can do is tell the,tell the the way the elders at bethlehem,manage this because that's that's me,when that happened i went to the elders,and i said to them here's the situation,and i think my son,needs to be pursued by the elders,as far as we can,and needs to be excommunicated if he,doesn't respond,he's 19 years old and uh,and so for i forget how many months they,did this maybe six months or so,and i said and i'm willing to step back,and go on a leave of absence,or resign or whatever you think,appropriate in this situation and they,never faced this,before with any theological thoroughness,and so,for those months they were pursuing him,talking with him he was working for one,of the elders at the time,and they had some conversations and,he that we were studying,the issue because it says in in titus 1,5 and 6 that the children of elders,should be,pista techna,is the neuter word for children and,pista agrees with it and so it's,faithful children,now if you just absolutize that they,must be believers then,not only would i've had to resign but,every pastor would have to resign until,his children become believers,you can't have children this is i'm,giving you one of the arguments,against it children become believers,they're not born believers,unless you have a very unusual view of,baptism as an infant baptism,baptizer so you can't have chil you,can't be a pastor until they become,believers say,nobody with children under six maybe you,should be a pastor and,and then you if they if they profess,faith and then leave then you have to,leave,well the elders studied that through and,they wrote a paper i think,we would make it available if people,wanted it uh,just a two-page thing and and said no,you shouldn't,resign for these reasons of an adult,child,and and so they they let me press on but,we did follow through with the,discipline,and god was merciful to i think,use that letting go to awaken,and restore and i'm thankful,for it so i don't think,the point of those stipulations in first,timothy and titus,is to do quick resignations of pastors,but to discern,whether a man has a,maturity and a giftedness to lead a,well-ordered,family that's what it's for how can you,manage the flock,if you can't manage your household and,man good management doesn't mean perfect,outcome it didn't for god,and it doesn't for us,you
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Abraham Piper Says, "It Would Suck If My Children Became Christian"
Abraham Piper Says, "It Would Suck If My Children Became Christian"
but i know what you actually mean by,your question and the answer is that,would suck all things theology all,things theology we chop it up properly,without an apology gotta give toxology,to god hollow because this is how we do,it at all things theology,yo grace and peace guys welcome to,another episode of all things theology,i'm your host kdub,and today i want to talk about abraham,piper's tick tocks but before we get,there make sure you're liking this video,leave a comment if you have any,questions and as always subscribe to the,channel if you've been following my,channel for any time you've seen that,i've responded to abraham piper's,tic-tock videos in the past and today i,want to provide a response as well so,let's get into it oh hey there's no such,thing as sin i tweeted this a couple,days ago and i knew people would,disagree i mean what's twitter for if,not poking the bear but what surprised,me is that some people interpreted me to,mean,that there's no such thing as doing,wrong or evil one person was like,someone steal his wallet,well to to be fair and con consistent i,think that's the position he would have,to hold because he's coming,from things he said in the past and i'll,make sure to play that as well,he said things like there is no ultimate,meaning instead of meaning your life,would be pointless three reasons one,being aware of an ultimate meaning would,be a spoiler we'd know the whole,point life would be like watching a game,recorded to watch later but then you,accidentally found out who won pointless,two if there's a known ultimate meaning,then we all have a moral obligation to,make our life about that thing this is,where religions come from it is the one,meaning of the universe after all and if,we all must do one thing we're tools,cogs pawns pick your metaphor and what,does that make life pointless is it even,possible for the universe to have a,meaning for anything to matter we have,to matter to ourselves first and if we,all matter to ourselves then there can't,be one single ultimate meaning here's a,simple question to explore all this is,it okay to not live for the ultimate,meaning in the universe if yes then it's,not ultimate it's alongside whatever i,choose to be about instead if no then,what motivates me every promise or,threat that could possibly be made to,motivate us to care about ultimate,meaning proves that it doesn't exist,because the only way to motivate us is,with our own personal desires outside of,that ultimate meaning for instance,threatening hell for not believing in,the christian god proves that it's our,own fear of pain that motivates us and,how can there be ultimate meaning but we,have ultimate morality so i would like,to actually challenge for a matter of,consistency i'm thankful he believes,things are wrong and um he acts like,there's objectivity he said there's,things you know if there's such thing as,meaning ultimate meaning then that,really kind of takes the fun out of life,and not knowing and and you know it,really doesn't have any purpose,if you know it right like what what's,the fun out of that you know,the essential crux he's trying to argue,so why can't one argue the same thing,for,objective evil or ultimate evil,how can you have,from his logic from his framework,actual evil taking place,you know what i mean given that there is,no ultimate purpose or ultimate meaning,so it's a matter of consistency i would,like to argue with him,like because i don't believe in sin i,think stealing is okay to me sin and,evil are very different a fairly common,understanding of the word sin is that,it's a breaking of the divine law going,against god i don't believe that there,is a divine law in the way that you,would typically expect someone to,interpret that phrase so i don't think,there's sin it's not a hot take it's,pretty mundane actually that's nothing,to do with evil what makes me,uncomfortable is equating evil and sin,because it takes the horrendous things,that we do to each other and it makes,them about god and not about making,things right with fellow humans oh okay,so making things right again let me let,me give more pushback,why is something wrong okay you may say,well it harms our neighbor okay well,that only kicks the can further back,why is that why is harming your neighbor,wrong,and if ultimate meaning as he's,described in his videos is ultimately,about the individual purpose,and not you know everyone else,then how can you actually call something,evil or wrong or even right,we are the most fundamental things that,matter to ourselves even if we choose to,behave that something else is more,valuable than us we're doing it because,it's what we feel like doing so we're,still what matters most to ourselves and,there can't be one ultimate meaning if,we're all our own meaning,as i say as i've said before,in the atheist framework,you don't have actual objective evil,what you have is different flavors of,more morality and in this uh,analogy,different flavors of ice cream,someone
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